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PostPosted: 18:24 - 10 Jan 2015    Post subject: Let me know how difficult you find this test Reply with quote

So there's these certain job positions which come about but once a year.

The application process has you fill out an entire application form, and all the personal statement jazz that goes with it - its very competitive so you'd want to spend a good weekend filling it out so it's perfecto.

Then they hit you up with an aptitude test, which you must pass otherwise its "better luck next year". I tried it a couple of years ago, the "practice" questions were akin to "3x12 = ?", then when you go to the "proper" test, the questions are more like "If im travelling at 60mph and I throw a banana out of the window, what colour is Daves giraffe?".

Needless to say I didn't come close. Looking again this year and it seems not much has changed, had a bash at the practice test and I guess I want to know if I'm a fucking retard or does anyone else find it difficult? I'm loath to spend hours filling in a form to be told to go fuck myself over a stupid aptitude test that has no relevance whatsoever to the actual job itself.

So, give it a bash and share your results, I'd be interested to see how everyone does - its the numerical test. You have to enter your email for a sign up but takes 10 seconds. You'll need to set aside 20 mins for the test.

https://www.trytalentq.com/

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PostPosted: 18:42 - 10 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might have a go later. Not doing it now cos I can't be bothered.

The maths type questions I am pretty good at but I'm rubbish with language questions. Think it's just how my mind works.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 10 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which of the 4 practice tests should we do?
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 10 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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its the numerical test

lihp wrote:
Which of the 4 practice tests should we do?

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"better luck next year"

In that order.
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 10 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

That test is the biggest pile of horse shit ever.

I've been getting very good grades at degree level maths and those questions are ridiculous.

You lose most of the time trying to figure out what the hell the poorly worded question actually wants to know.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 10 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not the same at all but I went for a job last year which involved an aptitude test. At the very start of the 100 question test it said "Read all 100 questions before filling out anything" the last question was....

"If you have read all of this please stand up and leave via the exit on your right without talking"

I stood up and left while the other candidates were sat busily filling out odd questions.


Still didn't get the job.
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 10 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

lihp wrote:
That test is the biggest pile of horse shit ever.

I've been getting very good grades at degree level maths and those questions are ridiculous.

You lose most of the time trying to figure out what the hell the poorly worded question actually wants to know.


This.

The questions aren't hard, they just give you a very short time to decipher their terrible wording and punch a load of numbers into a calculator.
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 10 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't work out where to find my result Laughing

Not enough time to work them out.
I think I missed several questions by seconds, and felt rushed to finish the others, maybe I completed three correctly and comfortably.
The others were rushed guesses OR missed out on time on at least 3.

And I didnt have a calculator, had to write them down in pencil - til I remembered there was on on the computer, halfway thru the test Embarassed
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 10 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might help:

https://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/eeda84e4-b4f6-11e3-9166-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3OSafTQiv

Psychometric testing is up with phrenology for being a load of old cobblers.
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm absolutely shite at aptitude tests. I went for a job interview with Logica, from 1200 they selected 100 candidates for a further interview. The scoring system for each category ran from 1-5 with 1 being the lowest score. In all the other categories barring the aptitude test I was scoring 4/5. However, I scored 2 for the aptitude test and had my application consequently binned.

Apparently the point of aptitude tests is figure out how your mind works. It appears that mine doesn't. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 11:41 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

whitmorereans wrote:
This might help:

https://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/eeda84e4-b4f6-11e3-9166-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3OSafTQiv

Psychometric testing is up with phrenology for being a load of old cobblers.


You do realise that the article, when you read it all, is of the exact opposite opinion?
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Let me know how difficult you find this test Reply with quote

tl:dr the test stuff - are you allowed to use paper, calculator, both?

Poorly worded questions might be PART of the test Smile - in real life you don't always get brilliantly described problems to solve.
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Let me know how difficult you find this test Reply with quote

G wrote:
tl:dr the test stuff - are you allowed to use paper, calculator, both?

Poorly worded questions might be PART of the test Smile - in real life you don't always get brilliantly described problems to solve.


I think it might be. And when ever I do these test you are always rushed. I think some are designed so you don't have enough time to finish.
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Let me know how difficult you find this test Reply with quote

G wrote:
tl:dr the test stuff - are you allowed to use paper, calculator, both?

Poorly worded questions might be PART of the test Smile - in real life you don't always get brilliantly described problems to solve.


Yes you are, it says so at the beginning.

I agree that it must be part of the test because the actual maths could be done by a lot of people, just working out exactly what they are asking requires reading the bloody question 3 times to actually understand what they want.

In real life for mathematical problems like that, you do have more time though. Unless this is for applying to be a spy or some other job where you need to be able to think very quickly in stressful situations.
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Let me know how difficult you find this test Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:

In real life for mathematical problems like that, you do have more time though. Unless this is for applying to be a spy or some other job where you need to be able to think very quickly in stressful situations.

Or a salesperson, where a quick calculation might make the difference between a sale and not (judging from the first questions Razz ).
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like things to make sense, this didn't make much sense to me. I'm sure the mathematics is not that hard, but the questions were really unclear and I gave up after like 3 questions.
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Let me know how difficult you find this test Reply with quote

G wrote:
The Artist wrote:

In real life for mathematical problems like that, you do have more time though. Unless this is for applying to be a spy or some other job where you need to be able to think very quickly in stressful situations.

Or a salesperson, where a quick calculation might make the difference between a sale and not (judging from the first questions Razz ).


Yeah but a salesperson will know the numbers already and understand what the hell is going on. Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a C. It's the time that's the killer. The wording caught me out a little too but that's part of the test really. As a comparison I got a B in maths at A level and an A at GCSE level.

What job is it you're applying for? I'd expect something like that on an Air Traffic Control application maybe. Assuming they're not expecting you to get an A to work the tills at McDonalds I'd say it could be a pretty fair test.
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cunting thing sucks. I rage closed by the 4th question. Got the practice ones right. Sad
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the test is the same for everybody then what is the problem?

The time restraint is part of the test, if all they wanted was someone who could do sums they could just hire someone with more than half a brain and a calculator.
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

whitmorereans wrote:

Psychometric testing is up with phrenology for being a load of old cobblers.


This is testing your ability. Not some psycho-babble. I like it as a basic way of narrowing down applications. Much better than who can make the prettiest CV in my opinion.
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't find the wording difficult at all. It just felt like didn't have enough time to comfortably calculate the workings out, like listening to the clock counting down on Countdown.

Literally, a matter of seconds, maybe 10 seconds extra (max.) for each question would have been ideal.
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

daemonoid wrote:
whitmorereans wrote:
This might help:

https://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/eeda84e4-b4f6-11e3-9166-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3OSafTQiv

Psychometric testing is up with phrenology for being a load of old cobblers.


You do realise that the article, when you read it all, is of the exact opposite opinion?


I like how the article says that if they read the tests of CEOs in a different way/more broadly, it would probably show a lot of them to be psychopathic Laughing that's so true. People who "get to the top" are often much less aware of their non-person skills and so don't see people (emotionless) but rather are so very results-driven that they have no idea (or interest) in "being nice" that the rest of us seem to think we need to be. Or (conversely) are very aware of them, and very manipulative (Machiavellian, good word!)
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes its not so much the questions themselves that are difficult just the speed at which you need to answer them, if you are to make it through 50% or more it seems you need to grasp exactly what they are asking for first time, do the calculation correctly first time without any time to check or think about it.

But as I said before, these are practice tests, the actual ones are 10x more difficult. I just wanted to know if it was just me that was getting overwhelmed by how demanding it is. Then again a girl I work with, who has a PhD in chemistry from a top 10 university, told me she tried it a year or so again and said it was single handedly one of the hardest things she's ever attempted, so on that basis I never stood a fucking chance.

Job is in cardiac physiology - now you may well say "well its quite understandable why they'd want you to make a decision in 0.fuckall seconds without any room for error", but its not acute trauma/A&E style, more like in-patient routine echocardiograms and stress testing - it's highly unlikely I'd be involved in life/death situations.

Bottom line is I can't see the relevance to how quickly and accurately I can calculate the difference in dividend share price between feb and march for WTM bankers ltd factoring in a 12% deficit, which I do not have any experience doing, and how well I can interpret scientific/clinical data, which I've been doing for 12 years......

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PostPosted: 20:58 - 11 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

daemonoid wrote:
whitmorereans wrote:
This might help:

https://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/eeda84e4-b4f6-11e3-9166-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3OSafTQiv

Psychometric testing is up with phrenology for being a load of old cobblers.


You do realise that the article, when you read it all, is of the exact opposite opinion?


Aaaaand this is why I never normally touch alcohol. I can't even remember making that post and that was after two glasses of wine.

Now I'm wondering about what other shite I've posted?
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