ce approved motorcycle clothes?

Lyam · Spanner Monkey Joined: 06 Apr 2011 Karma :

does anyone have a list of clothes either leather or textile that meets ce level1, i ask after recently hearing of draggins new jeans that are the only jeans that met ce level 1 meaning all other kevlar jeans dont, so i guess there allowed to sell clothes that might not offer as much protection as a price tag would indicate. i know of a few suits that met ce level 2 one from wiese and the other from hideout, but why arent all textiles leather at least ce level 1?

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

In short, because CE is nonsense.

In general the only parts of protective clothing that tend to be CE marked are the armour. Why? Because Knox have been submitting their armour for CE testing for years. Its relatively easy to get certification on just a piece of armour, yet it is very very hard and expensive to get CE certification on leathers.

It doesn't mean they are any less protective than CE marked clothing, it just means that they haven't been tested by some Belgian in a white coat.
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Lyam · Spanner Monkey Joined: 06 Apr 2011 Karma :

but surely if there gear was good enought they would submitt it for testing ive found some furygan jackets that are affordable and ce approved level 1 not just the armour the jacket itself has passed abrasion and burst tests and is recognised as ppe equitment while my more exspensive arlen ness leather suit has (this is not protective clothing) written on it, id happily buy the furygan jacket you know how good it is if its ce approved and how long youl last sliding down the road on a dry day!

Charlie · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 May 2007 Karma :

My TCX S-Race Gore-Tex boots are CE approved. I might have got the name wrong as my boots are old, but they are the most similar to them on the website.

https://www.tcxboots.com/eng/prodotti-dettaglio.php?prodotto=5
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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

The costs of testing will make the items more expensive. That will (by itself) tend to reduce sales. Manufacturers must reckon that any extra sales from some more CE labels won't make up for that.

Essentially they think we're dumb cheapskate posers, although they might not word it in exactly those terms.
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oldenuff · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Karma :

Tp get the CE approval as 'Protective Clothing' the gear has to pass a series of abrasion, impact and bursting tests before they can be marked with the CE Protective clothing mark. I recall seeing a test in (iirc) Ride of Kevlar jeans where they were not as good as quite modest leathers for abrasion tests.
If you want to guarantee that your kit will perform for you in a crash or fall then you need CE level 1 Protective Clothing. If like me, you do not want to spend as much on kit as on the bike - yes your are talking about upwards of £2000 - then you need to make your own judgement on the quality of the kit you buy.
On this note I went to collect a computer from the repairers last week and guy serving me was bemoaning the fact that his engineer had been biking in the rain the day before in his brand-new very expensive kit from a well-known German outlet and had come home soaked.
I also notice that when I replaced my Buffalo jacket that the current CE armour is very much stiffer than previously so things do cahnge over time.

iooi · Super Spammer Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Karma :

I once knew a manufacture you had CE markings on the product packaging....

Turned out after some invistigation. That it WAS the packaging that was CE approved and the product had never been tested Laughing

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oldenuff · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Karma :

I think that we all face the problem of uncertainty. If, in the case of my repairman, it leaks then you go back and get some sort of rectification.

In the case of helmets or protective clothing it is too late if you find out the hard way that the claims are untrue.

We would be better off if, instead of some theoretical standard, manufacturers were required to post their own test regime and the results that they achieved. We could then make an informed judgement.

You only have to graze through the SHARP results to see that price and protection do not always go hand in hand.

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oldenuff · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Karma :

How do you make judgements without good data?

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briansansom · L Plate Warrior Joined: 12 Jan 2015 Karma :

I'm a bit late joining this forum but as more and more companies are making some less than truthful claims thought I could do some good. This link will answer most of what anyone needs to know......

https://www.bmf.co.uk/news/show/personal-protective-equipment-ppe

BKS were the very first brand to gain CE Approval for it's leather suits back in 1994 and we were awarded Cambridge Standard Level 3 (High Performance) which is the best you can get. Our suits are in no way too heavy, or uncomfortable and dispel with all rumors and negative aspects that sometimes CE marked kit gets. Our prices reflect the time and attention given to creating bespoke one off suits that are very labour intensive and come with a thorough attention to detail and service. However for the cost you get perfect fit, the highest performance suit (no question) and control of all your specification choices.

For more info message me or read our new website www.bksleather.co.uk
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dspr · Banned Joined: 29 Mar 2016 Karma :

CE approved clothes are pretty confusing, I wasn't sure about it either but I read this post recently and it helped clear it up a bit. Just thought I'd leave it here, I know more people are just as confused as i am Laughing

https://www.mxstore.com.au/blog/helpful-advice-handy-tips/what-is-ce-approved-motocross-protective-gear/