Suzuki Recursion

RhynoCZ · Super Spammer Joined: 09 Mar 2012 Karma :

Well, lads and lasses, we all know Kawasaki has got its H2 and H2R, and now Suzuki comes to play. Suzuki is going to produce their concept motorcycle Recursion, with liquid cooled, turbo charged, 588cc parallel twin cylinder, four stroke engine. The idea of the motorcycle is to create a very light and small motorcycle with power of a 1000cc sports bike.

No further info yet, but I am quite excited about this one. Thumbs Up

b422063 · Crazy Courier Joined: 14 Oct 2014 Karma :

I'm not going to get too excited. It'll be rare exotica with a price tag to match that you'll never see out on the road, let alone be able to afford it.

Polarbear · Super Spammer Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Karma :

Why a parallel twin, a nice free reving triple would be Thumbs Up

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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

Maybe. How much does a small turbo cost?

I'm sure they'll find some way to spack it up, mind.
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Wafer_Thin_Ham · Super Spammer Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Karma :

Power of thousand with one front brake disc and a skinny rear tyre? Really Suzuki?
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Pirate Ridaaargh · Derestricted Danger Joined: 27 May 2014 Karma :

A bit further on this.

On Asphalt and Rubber, they've got a picture of the magazine where all this news originated showing the supposed production version (seems pretty dubious, though).

https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/suzuki-recursion-turbocharged-production/

And then Therideadvise had an article that Suzuki has re-registered their Katana trademarks - a coincidence?

https://therideadvice.com/production-recursion-concept-called-suzuki-katana/

stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Retro bikes. Hmm.

Suzuki, if you're listening.

A totally bomb-proof, DOHC, aircooled 1000cc inline four with a naked engine.

Yamaha.

A simple 650cc, SOHC, air-cooled paralell twin please.

You could call them a GS1000 and an XS650.

Honda.

I still want my 1000cc liquid-cooled V4 sports-tourer with gear driven cams, a slightly relaxed sportsbike geometry, a big tank and a conventional gearbox.
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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

Would you actually buy any of them new though?
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stevo as b4 · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Karma :

I'm with Stinkwheel on this TBH!

Roger, are you telling me you would not buy a brand new TZR750 or a Kawasaki Mach1 if such bikes existed?

dydey90 · World Chat Champion Joined: 01 Oct 2013 Karma :

Did they forget to design the bottom half? Looks like a dildo on a trolley.
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Very little of that bike says '1000cc power'... edit...

nelmo · Scooby Slapper Joined: 05 Dec 2013 Karma :

They're continuing the trend started in small cars - whack a small turbo in and you get a good marketing line, more power and speed but with similar MPG figures and, most importantly for cars, lower emissions so lower tax etc.

Win/win and can't see why it shouldn't work for bikes.
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CieL · Brolly Dolly Joined: 22 Jul 2014 Karma :

Remove that front fairing and you get a very decent looking bike.
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Suzuki promises 50% better mpg.
If it manages to be decently lighter than a F800S AND offer at least 50% better MPG than one too, I think it could be quite interesting - at least 5-10 years down the line when others have paid the new-bike premium anyway Smile

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Always fancied the F800s as a modern TRX.

Supermoto_Fan · World Chat Champion Joined: 10 Jun 2012 Karma :

Oh suzuki where did it go wrong, for a manufacturer with such heritage what do you have to show for it other than the GSXR range and even that is years old without any real update ..
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Codezombie · Nova Slayer Joined: 13 Jan 2015 Karma :

A turbo?

Hmm, I always thought turbos were an issue on bikes due to the lag making them a bit... tricky to ride as the boost comes in late, while making them anemic outside of the boost range due to the lowered compression.

I wonder if Suzuki have found a way to make variable geometry turbos affordable, or have maybe they have a non explosive way to introduce anti-lag.
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Modern turbos on cars seem massively better as far as bikes go - on pretty low power/capacity designs.

Codezombie · Nova Slayer Joined: 13 Jan 2015 Karma :

Well if they can get a turbo working on a mid/small bike without any sort of nasty lag kicking in the corners, then I'd be certainly up for getting hold of one. Smile

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Apart from 'being different', why?

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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

As with the cars, I suspect that they've made it 'like a normal bike' with modern technology.

Now, a big hp turbo bike WOULD be interesting for a bit of a play.

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