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AzzA1990
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Shall i buy it? is it worth it Reply with quote

Hi guys

Just wanted some opinions really i have found a bike for sale that to me seems quite cheap and good for the money

It's a 1984 Honda cbx 750f (classic?) all in good original condition with just shy of 47000 miles on the clock it has 8 month M.O.t left and it's been sitting for about 2 to 3 months, i drive past it every day on the way to work and it doesn't look as it it's moved in a while, i have managed to get the price quite a bit lower as the guy want's a quick sale as, doesn't really look like there's any rust or anything it looks clean for it's age perhaps it's been well looked after

Before i say what i can get it for i want too see if anyone can throw me some prices on what they would be prepared to pay for something like this

Thanks a lot
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well there is one on ebay with a dealer - new paint job, 20k less miles for £1795. Another for just under a grand.

It is worth whatever somebody is willing to pay. What are you willing to pay?

If you see it every day is it kept outside? If he wants shot of it make a cheeky offer, you can always go up from there.
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CBX-750-FE-/251791632655?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3a9ff3690f

For a tired example that's sat outside with massive mileage?

£300-500 & only if I was a massive fan of the shape of it. Which I'm not.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Shall i buy it? is it worth it Reply with quote

£450 'ok', <£250 'not bad deal'.
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

£350 for something tatty with tax & test
Anything up to about £1500 for a near-minter selling as a nostalgia piece.
My Uncle had one back when they were new, and he'd definitely pay £1500 for a good one to re-live his youth.
I have the CB 'Seven-Fifty' that has the CBX's engine, and to my mind, as an 'every-day' hack, its a far better bet; with less sophisticated suspension and brakes, less plastic and wiring, its far more DIY maintainable to a decent standard, and takes more readily available tyres, for small sacrifice 'performance' that the CBX wasn't ever really setting a standard for even thirty years ago... so even fact that uncles was first 'Big-Bike' I ever rode, wouldn't get my nostalgia vote, nor would a sub £500 example get my money for budget biking; I'd put it into (as I did) a 'seven-fifty' or now, something more common/popular, like a Blandit 6 or Fazer or 'something' I'd feel more comfy I could more cheaply and easily fix when it wore out, broke or seized..
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

30 year old bike, 240kg wet, 16" front wheel, 34mpg.

I'd do the guy a favour and take it away for him. Then probably weigh it in for scrap.
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
30 year old bike, 240kg wet, 16" front wheel, 34mpg.

I'd do the guy a favour and take it away for him. Then probably weigh it in for scrap.


From some-one who rides something that tries to shift 190Kg with less than 20 Hp, designed in the 1930's.. that's a bit rich...

The CBX was, and still is a very under rated and very useful motorcycle, and while I wouldn't go looking for one, if I was offered choice between an '84 CBX750, an '86 CBR600 and an 87 VFR750, I'd take the CBX, now, then or any time in between.

Cast alloy 'Pro-link' (monoshock') rear suspension; 'anti-dive' front forks, sixteen valve DOHC motor, it was, a worthy rival to Kawasaki's class leading GPz750 and the incumbent Suzuki GSX750, and state of the art... for about fifteen minutes!

Honda knew it was as far as they could go with an air-cooled across-the frame-four cylinder design; 95bhp if memory serves, it was as powerful as the VF750, lighter, less convoluted, more reliable and easier to maintain. It was their 'Plan-B', if the water-cooled techno-wonder wasn't well received..... which it wasn't..

Unfortunately, while it had been a good match for a GPz of GSX.... The 'new-breed' arrived in the form of the GPz600R and the GSXR... and so 'Plan C' was put into action, and Honda copied a GPZ600R, and hid the similarities behind Paso fully enclosed body work and called it the CBR600....

VF750 was 90bhp for 250Kg, VFR750, was 100DIN for 230Kg, Jelly mould CBR6 was 85bhp for 199Kg; CBX, 95bhp for 240 'wet'... stats were well within the ball-park, as a credible 'sports-bike' of the era.

As a 'street-bike' in the modern era? STILL not too scruffy; it's as powerful as a older carbed Hornet or steel-frame CBR, with lack of fluids flattering their quoted dry-weight, its 'kerb' weight still isn't that far out of bounds. Riding position is quite nice too, old-skool 'sporty' rather than wide-bar 'street-fighter' or arse up-nose down 'race-rep'; fairing s curiously useful for such a small expanse of plastic; while headlamps for the era were pretty bludy great; 16" wheel 'handling' has always been reputed to be 'curious' but, and old 16" wheel & tyre is not much different in rolling diameter to a modern 17" wheel with low-profile on it; main difference is the 16"er is likely to be narrower, cross-ply.... it did and still does handle 'respectably' on good suspension and good tyres; certainly well enough for more some reasonably spirited riding....

But, that's the crux; in a modern context, it's still not a 'bad' street-bike, for performance; BUT, those wheels do limit tyre choice; and the benefit of that rather nice alloy swig arm are probably rather blunted by sloppy bushes and a shot shocker; trac ati-dive upfront was an unecessary complexity at the time; now its a liability; hence my appraisal; 'cos, the twin-shock 'Seven-Fifty' can be shod with far greater selection of better radial rubber, and that suspension cheaply and easily spruced up with £150's worth of Hagon replacement shocks and a couple of new swing-arm bushes, where the CBX would need a £300 shock and a lot of swearing to re-bush the linkage!

But, as said, still a better bet, in my book than an early CBR or VFR.... might not be as serviceable and liveable as a the Seven-Fifty.... but more so than the V-Four that has the same 18/16 wheel/tyre issue in the pre single sided swig arm model, same issues as far as the more convoluted mono-shock rear suspension with lots of links and bushes and an expensive shocker; and a whole host of its own sniggles in that water cooled motor, with known carb niggles; rads prone to crumbling and plastics prone to going brittle; or CBR6, which is a little more service friendly.. but more likely to be in more dire need of attension!

While as a 'Classsic' of course, you have to have been there to apreciate it, other wise it doesn't 'look' like a classic should.... does it... I mean, like it was designed in the 1930's........
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair point, Tef, he should get a modern supersports 600.
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are CBX 750's those with the hydraulically adjusted valve clearances? Thinking
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Are CBX 750's those with the hydraulically adjusted valve clearances? Thinking

Yes, as seen on other cutting edge modern bikes such as Royal Enfields.

Not even joking, they do have 'em from 2008 onwards.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
30 year old bike, 240kg wet, 16" front wheel, 34mpg.

I'd do the guy a favour and take it away for him. Then probably weigh it in for scrap.


From some-one who tries to shift 190Kg with less than 20 Hp, designed in the 1930's.. that's a bit rich...


Wait a minute, are you saying Rog is over 85 years of age, weighs 190KG and his legs produce 20 Hp?
That's impressive! Doubley so for a Scotsman. Laughing

...calling him "designed" was a bit rude tho. Razz
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
30 year old bike, 240kg wet, 16" front wheel, 34mpg.

I'd do the guy a favour and take it away for him. Then probably weigh it in for scrap.


From some-one who rides something that tries to shift 190Kg with less than 20 Hp, designed in the 1930's.. that's a bit rich...


It does that while returning 90mpg though.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Shall i buy it? is it worth it Reply with quote

AzzA1990 wrote:

throw me some prices on what they would be prepared to pay for something like this

Thanks a lot

I rode bikes of this era ... Tesco wonky wheel trolly handlin, skinny tires/tyres road holdin and wooden inefficient single pot brakes.. the price I would pay....

£0.00
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commuter_Tim wrote:
Teflon-Mike wrote:
[argle bargle fargle]

If you don't quote him, I don't have to read him.

Just saying.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

If you don't quote him, I don't have to read him.

Just saying.


...and yet a lot of your replies to him are still relevant to his posts, Tef-Sense tingling? Laughing

You can't have assimilated all of his data into the Borg Collective, that's more lines of code than even it can hold.
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PostPosted: 00:34 - 17 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commuter_Tim wrote:
You can't have assimilated all of his data into the Borg Collective, that's more lines of code than even it can hold.

You only really have to read one.
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