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turningCircle
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PostPosted: 01:49 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Cheap and Cheerful Sat Nav Reply with quote

Hi All,

Are there any usable Sat Navs out there suitable for motorcycles for under 100 squid-ish? Or would I best best buying a dedicated smartphone and use that? I'd rather not spend £300!

This looks alright-ish: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Peaklife-Weatherproof-Motorcycle-Navigator-Terrain/dp/B0062EAGP2

What dya reckon?
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PostPosted: 02:34 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Cheap and Cheerful Sat Nav Reply with quote

I'd go for a smartphone and an appropriate water case these days.

Doesn't seem any real point in a dedicated sat nav when you can get a phone with a pretty decent screen for similar money that does all the 'phone' stuff too.
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PostPosted: 08:04 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use tomtom on the iPhone, works great for me.
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PostPosted: 08:14 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Google Maps/navigation has lane assist now. That was the only remaining feature that would have swayed me towards buying a standalone unit.
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PostPosted: 08:47 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't mind selling your soul and personal information to google, Waze is epic. And free.
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are often factory reconditioned ones on eBay, got my satnav for £30 that way when new in the shops they were £120.
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:
If you don't mind selling your soul and personal information to google, Waze is epic. And free.

May still have to pay for data; thankfully mine is unlimited Smile.
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PostPosted: 10:19 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are quite a few cheap and cheerful Sat Navs on ebay, and if you add one of those magnetic waterproof holders that fit on the tank, then you can still do it for well under £100.

For about the same cost though, you can get a decent 7" Android Tablet with GPS built-in, and lots of free Navigation aps that update the maps for free.

NavFree is one of the better aps.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Cheap and Cheerful Sat Nav Reply with quote

G wrote:
I'd go for a smartphone and an appropriate water case these days.

Doesn't seem any real point in a dedicated sat nav when you can get a phone with a pretty decent screen for similar money that does all the 'phone' stuff too.


and put it in a water proof case.. try changing the settins on the move .. and see how long it lasts in that high frequency vibration environment.
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use navfree/google maps on my phone for bike.

Both are shit compared to a dedicated sat nav.
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Navfree/Google Maps if I am out without a satnav and need something. If I am planning ahead on the bike I use a second hand TomTom Urban Rider I picked up on eBay. It does the job it is designed for without beasting your phone's battery/data.
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've found on both the phones I've tried particularly in urban areas the satnav seems to "lag" a bit causing missed turnings. Could just be the 2 I tried had crap GPS antennas though
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If road based I'd go for a waterproof dustproof phone with wireless charging. Even better if its purely for GPS. I use my backup phone.

I also have a small stylus which works exceptionally well changing settings on the move whilst wear thick gloves. Even on my thumper.

Sygic is my preferred road based application.

Done a good few tours this way out to eastern Europe and Spain including some off road. No worries.

I also have a Garmin device, but it's extra stuff to carry and doesn't have offer anything above the phone unless I want to walk with it for 20 hours.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
I've found on both the phones I've tried particularly in urban areas the satnav seems to "lag" a bit causing missed turnings. Could just be the 2 I tried had crap GPS antennas though


Good GPS devices will poll up to around 10hz. Exclude most consumer based garmin devices and mobiles from this.

You can also buy dedicated blue tooth receivers for faster polling/writes.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Cheap and Cheerful Sat Nav Reply with quote

Copycat73 wrote:

and put it in a water proof case.. try changing the settins on the move .. and see how long it lasts in that high frequency vibration environment.


There is enough to watch out for on a bike WITHOUT pissing around changing sat nav setting while riding.....

Mobile phone sat nav in pocket via bluetooth.

Eye's are best kept on the road.... NOT a screen. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Co pilot on my Samsung Galaxy with a waterproof case and charging lead, works great. Wink
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Cheap and Cheerful Sat Nav Reply with quote

iooi wrote:


There is enough to watch out for on a bike WITHOUT pissing around changing sat nav setting while riding.....

Mobile phone sat nav in pocket via bluetooth.

Eye's are best kept on the road.... NOT a screen. Thumbs Up


get enough patronising safety lectures as it is thank you.
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 17 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Slacker24seven wrote:
If you don't mind selling your soul and personal information to google, Waze is epic. And free.

May still have to pay for data; thankfully mine is unlimited Smile.


Using mine for commuting, I use ~200mb per week.
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 17 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're just wanting A-to-B routing (perhaps via C) then a cheap secondhand Samsung Galaxy S3 for about £100 with the free Here maps app (Nokia app) will work perfectly.

However, a dedicated bike sat nav allow you to plot routes with multiple waypoints to make your route interesting and the more modern units have winding roads or shortest routing which can take you down roads you'd never find by yourself.

I just sold my TT Rider v3 for £125, so bargains are out there Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 17 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use second hand Garmin Nuvi's from ebay. Usually pay between £15-25.

What's nice about the Nuvi's is they are a very similar hight to 18650 cells, which means you can get power banks the exact same size as them.

So my current set up is a £15 widescreen Garmin Nuvi (cant remember the exact model) sandwiched with a £10 9Ah power bank, all put inside one of those £5 waterproof cases on eBay.

Gives me about 24 hours of constant use before it needs charging and has no wires so can be used on anything.

I buy a new Garmin Nuvi for the same price every few years to update the maps.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 17 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

aldi have Garmin Sat Nav Nuvi 2517LM (£59.99) ... the box I saw included free life time updates.
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PostPosted: 02:11 - 19 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a cheap Sat nav from a German website.
It is decent if a tad small.
Fitted it to the bike etc and never use the fooker !!
Just follow the road signs and guess ,fook it I'm in no rush
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 19 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:


Using mine for commuting, I use ~200mb per week.


Why you use so much data?
Get something with maps installed and you use no data....

As well as satnav on a commute?
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 19 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:


Why you use so much data?
Get something with maps installed and you use no data....

As well as satnav on a commute?

Because Waze gives you live updates of not only traffic, but other hazards, such as parked police cars (to watch for all the people panic braking, of course!) and the like.
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