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PostPosted: 10:02 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure the child whos life you were rushing to save is grateful that you made every effort to pass the cyclist as quickly as possible.

Did they pull through?
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I learned something new the other day!

On my way home, I spotted a neighbour in front of me on his bike, who had come to a stop at a pedestrian crossing.

He was wobbling about like crazy - apparently trying to stay upright without putting a foot down to steady himself - he looked completely demented!

I later asked him why he didn't just put one foot down - and he said he couldn't.

He said that he has some kind of fitting on the bottom of his shoes (can't remember what he called it) that slots onto the pedals, making it difficult to get his feet on and off the pedals.

Seriously?

Is that normal, or was he having me on?
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleats are very normal, but not particularly difficult to get in and out of unless you are a mong.
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyclists in London Shocked, frightening

I would guess 90% are fine but the other 10% are arrogant stupid twats who are lorry fodder but can't seem to appreciate what risks they are taking.
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you decided to put his life at risk so you could go on your journey a little quicker?
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeypony wrote:
Cleats are very normal, but not particularly difficult to get in and out of unless you are a mong.
I'd heard that they are hard to find as well.
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Cyclist rant Reply with quote

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[Got told off by a pedomental, took it like a bitch at the time, am now heroface]

To the cyclist...
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do cleats improve matters? I never remember having a problem before I had access to motorised transport. I used to do a paper round on an extremely heavy suspension bike with only plastic spikes on the pedals to keep my feet in place. No problems despite going out in ice, snow and heavy rain as well as having to tackle hills that were about a 1:4 gradient.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleats are very good,

It's not about holding your foot in place it's about being able to pull the pedal up as well as push it down, you'll go further with cleats than without.

And as about they are easy to get out of if you are not a mong, getting into them is more difficult, but still easier than pratting about not stopping.
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

dydey90 wrote:
Do cleats improve matters? I never remember having a problem before I had access to motorised transport. I used to do a paper round on an extremely heavy suspension bike with only plastic spikes on the pedals to keep my feet in place. No problems despite going out in ice, snow and heavy rain as well as having to tackle hills that were about a 1:4 gradient.


inb4 off topic and wrong forum but..

Cleats are great, but it really depends how much and what sort of riding you do.

I use cleats for road riding and cross country ,but not for downhill as it just feel wrong.

You get a much more efficient pedalling motion with cleats.
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

dydey90 wrote:
Do cleats improve matters? I never remember having a problem before I had access to motorised transport. I used to do a paper round on an extremely heavy suspension bike with only plastic spikes on the pedals to keep my feet in place. No problems despite going out in ice, snow and heavy rain as well as having to tackle hills that were about a 1:4 gradient.


In the same way some motorcyclists wear knee sliders to the shops or ride 200hp rockets at 1/50th of their capability... Cyclists like to wear cleats and have £10k carbon fibre 500g bikes despite carrying more than the weight saving around their waist.

Cleats make you slightly faster if you're a medium-good cyclist who's going for times. They also work different muscles as you can pull and push. Kinda seem pointless for a gentle stop-start ride through the city...
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
It's not about holding your foot in place it's about being able to pull the pedal up as well as push it down, you'll go further with cleats than without


Do that too much and you'll find out what knee instability means and how hard it is to walk when you have it.
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Cyclist rant Reply with quote

itswoody wrote:
That makes you the idiot IMO.

I disagree.

You've seen him, you've acknowledged his position at the junction, you've waited for him to manouver before you do. So far, he trusts you not to do something spacky. Then you blitz by on wide open throttle on his inside. What do you think he's thinking at this point? Friend or foe?

The correct course of action would be hang back. If you're still not happy, peep your tooter at him to show you're there, then overtake properly, on the correct side.
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taught2BCautious wrote:
slots onto the pedals, making it difficult to get his feet on and off the pedals.
Not so much that, but it can take a few seconds to clip back in when the lights have turned green, so you get a quicker getaway if you leave your shoes clipped in.

OP story sounds like business as usual.
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not having enough room makes it sound like you were in a car...

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PostPosted: 13:37 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Cyclist rant Reply with quote

UnknownStuntman wrote:
itswoody wrote:
That makes you the idiot IMO.

I disagree.

You've seen him, you've acknowledged his position at the junction, you've waited for him to manouver before you do. So far, he trusts you not to do something spacky. Then you blitz by on wide open throttle on his inside. What do you think he's thinking at this point? Friend or foe?

The correct course of action would be hang back. If you're still not happy, peep your tooter at him to show you're there, then overtake properly, on the correct side.


I know I know. There was no contact or anything, it was just how righteous he was about it - cyclists undertake day in day out to make progress but to do it to him (after giving him time to get his act together) and get that reaction just pissed me off. Especially when he looked behind him and clocked me before I passed him. Was like he was looking for an excuse to shout at someone, hyper sensitive you know...
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing wrong with riding with cleats in town. Once you've got used to them. Falling over at the lights because you forgot to release them - not so good. That was 1998, though. I have no trouble releasing them to put a foot down. I'll usually only stay clipped in when I'm stopping for a moment while checking it's clear at a junction - same as I wouldn't put a foot down on the motorbike if I approach a junction just for the sake of putting a foot down. In fact, the only fault I got on my mod 2 was for putting a foot down when I could have just gone. Track standing because he can't unclip suggests he needs to practice more.

Riding fixed gear as I usually am - you try doing 200rpm down a hill without cleats.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

So does nobody else think trackstands are pretty cool then?
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

cleats used downhill are for sickos, they type or have hot wax poured on their nipples during sexy time

as already said, cleats on the road allow you to pull the pedal up as well as push down, the shoes are rigid too so you get more POWA - also make you walk like you have shat your self too....which is nice

stinkwheel wrote:
So does nobody else think trackstands are pretty cool then?


i always thought trackstands were cool, obviously not as cool as pulling a huge skid or wheelies but still cool as funk



Cool


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PostPosted: 13:58 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
So does nobody else think trackstands are pretty cool then?


Done well yes but done badly they are the same as crap wheelies, they just get in the way and endanger other road users.
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyspoddy wrote:
[cleats]

No need to go the whole cyborg. I just use cheap plastic toe clips. Easy in, easy out, bish bosh, pukka.

https://www.parktool.com/uploads/images/blog/repair_help/feet_69.jpg
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Everyspoddy wrote:
[cleats]

No need to go the whole cyborg. I just use cheap plastic toe clips. Easy in, easy out, bish bosh, pukka.

https://www.parktool.com/uploads/images/blog/repair_help/feet_69.jpg


Might as well use a butterfly or soggy moth the amount of help that'd give.

I used to to TT's a few years back, 10 mile flat out road races, the cleats made a great deal of difference especially uphill when lugging ridiculous gearing (56 front sprockets) the stronger the cleat holds your foot the more power both legs can pull that chainring round again.

But, most road riders don't really need cleats they just assist a little (most only push the pedal not pull anyway)
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 21 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bubblin77 wrote:
But, most road riders don't really need cleats they just assist a little (most only push the pedal not pull anyway)

They might benefit "a little" from fitting soggy moths though, even though (or perhaps because) not racebike.

There's a middle ground between wobbling along on the footway at 5mph and shooting yourself full of hyper-oxygenated bull semen or whatever Lance Armstrong was on.
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