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mr-jermy
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: TV wall bracket Reply with quote

hi all got a couple of questions for those that know with regards to mounting a tv on the wall,

Ideally i want the tv to be mounted on the chimney breast which i've been informed is fine however i have my fish tank below it, which i would move however its the only place for it to go as it is 4ft long and weighs a ton. would it be safe to mount it above the fish tank if i get the right bolts?

secondly what bolts do i need to mount it on to the wall as its a second hand bracket coming from my grandfather but he got rid of the bolts that he had and is in france for the next 3 weeks so i am unable to contact him,

Any help and advice would be much appreciated,

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PostPosted: 17:03 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Providing you mount it properly it will be safe wherever you put it (unless your tank has a lot of vapour coming from it?)

Bolts wise, a tv weighs in about next to nothing unless it's ancient, any decent sized screw will do, you don't need fancy screws or bolts. Look at your kitchen cupboards they alone probably weigh more than your TV and then you put tins/bowls etc in them, doubt you would get anything other than a "big" screw from B&Q for those.

Luckily for my mines screwed into wood so no issue with Rawl plugs etc, but even if it went into the brickwork, I would only put the brown ones in with appropriate sized screws.

Won't it be a tad high about a fishtank? Or do you like being in the first row of a cinema (or watch TV standing up?)
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

look on Amazon/Ebay for a bracket suitable for ypur size TV, and see what fixings it's supplied with. Also look at the back of your TV and see what size screws you'll need. It's likely that the TV mounting points will be the weakest link so you'll need to get the correct sizes.

IIRC my TV had only a few holes with threaded inserts, so you need to get those sizes right. The bracket and wall fixings (i.e. the holes in the bracket) will be numerous so I'd put in as wide a screw as the bracket will allow, with good quality wall plugs. Better be safe than sorry. buy from Toolstation if you have one near, as B&Q etc are a rip-off.

Also as t121anf says, make sure you don't mount it too high, else you'll get a sore neck after 20 minutes.
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bolt/screw wise to the wall I'd look at coach screw into rawplug fitting.

For fitting TV to bracket as said I'd look at what's provided in a normal kit and get suitable same bits.

Once upon a time I was told bad to put tv on chimney as affected by rising heat. Sounds like that will not be an issue with yours. Probably was just in the early days of plasma and led tv too.
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 13 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
Bolt/screw wise to the wall I'd look at coach screw into rawplug fitting.

For fitting TV to bracket as said I'd look at what's provided in a normal kit and get suitable same bits.

Once upon a time I was told bad to put tv on chimney as affected by rising heat. Sounds like that will not be an issue with yours. Probably was just in the early days of plasma and led tv too.


Still wouldn't mount above a fire or radiator, guessed since a tank is there, there was no fire?

Ours is on the chimney but we have no fire just a hole, well shelves for av things.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 14 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for all the advice,

weight wise the tv i've got weighs more than a standard tv not sure why though i presume its just an older tv,

It wouldnt be massively high as my sofa is fairly high and im 6ft 4 so doesnt bother me too much, although i will put my current tv carefully on top of the fish tank making sure that theres enough support for it there to check that it isnt uncomfortable,

i'll be getting the relevant bracket for the tv shortly as soon as my grandad gets back from france as it was his tv to begin with and he had to pay £200 for the bracket,

i have no idea what a coach screw is so ill have to google that haha
you are correct it is bad to have them there or above a radiator however the fire was taken out by the council when we moved in unfortunately they blocked up the fire as i was going to put shelving inside it for dvds etc, the only other place to mount the tv is above the radiator which isnt a good idea unless i turn the radiator off permanently, as where it is i keep knocking it and i keep feeling that im going to knock it off the unit.

will have a look into the suggestions and see what i can sort out, any other ideas are much appreciated,

thanks,

Chris,
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 14 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr-jermy wrote:
...i have no idea what a coach screw is so ill have to google that haha...

Advantage I find is you can dig out a socket set to tighten it without the risk of rounding off a Philips screw head or screwdriver slipping out a flat screw head.
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 14 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is your chimney brick, block or stone built? I only ask as that can effect what you put in to hold the wall bracket. The last time I put up one was into a stone chimney so to get the bracket level I had to drill some holes into the stone and some into the joints. I ended up using 150mm coach bolts with the metal anchors that come with some types, I then put a 2 part cement resin in the holes then the plugs. It was overkill I know but I needed to vary the lengths of the bolts to keep the bracket flat. By the time I had finished there was no way the bracket or bolts would ever come out again unless the chimney breast was demolished.
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 14 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My main cause for vex with wall-mounting is the cable runs. Ideally, if I were doing it, I would install at least power, co-ax and HDMI sockets behind where the TV will sit, so that the TV can operate with no trailing cables. My TV currently has power, 3 HDMI, 1 SCART ( Embarassed ) and one 3.5 mm connected. That's without any aerial or ethernet connection and relies on direct audio connections from my PS3 and Sky box to the amp (otherwise you could add an optical connection to the TV too). I also have a PS3 camera and Wii sensor on it and occasionally connect my DSLR by USB or HDMI.

Once the TV is up, you have to think about how you will feed it power and pictures - where will all that stuff go? I'm a bit OCD when it comes to cables though - I can't stand seeing trailed cables and don't like trunking.

For the mounting, I would probably also use coach bolts and plugs - luckily my walls are brick so will take a plug (but I always use my own, never the randomly supplied ones).
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 14 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a brick chimney so should be easy enough to mount on there its just a question as to how long should the bolts be? as i dont want to get some that are too short,

yeah thats what i would rather do i have a tendancy to overtighten screws and round off the heads haha.

I'm not keen on the cables either im going to have to get some cable tidy for it but thankfully as it will be above my fish tank i can hide the cables behind that. i've currently got everything on my unit which will fit comfortably next to the chimney so will be tucked out of the way thankfully, ideally when the council give me the chance to purchase the house i'm planning to put a hole back in the chimney breast and mount everything in there as it will be alot tidier.

thanks,

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PostPosted: 12:08 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think a spirit level is the only thing i havent got i must remember to get one before i attempt this,

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PostPosted: 12:21 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put up a new tv bracket a couple of weeks ago. The bracket was a universal tilting one for £25 from Toolstation, used M6 coach screws 70mm long and nylon wall plugs into brick.
What the hell kind of bracket did your dad get for £200?!
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 16 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm not sure i think the bracket and tv were bought around 2006-2007 so the prices for the brackets would have been a lot more expensive then rather than now, plus its probably about twice the weight of my old tv so needs a decent one to secure it on the wall. will pick up some nylon plugs as well,

thanks,

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PostPosted: 23:56 - 19 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

7mm masonary drill bit, using brown rawlplugs. size 10 3" screws will see you right (i'd say around 6 but depends on how many fixings the bracket has)
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 25 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never understood this fashion for sticking the telly high up on a wall. Sure a modem flat telly can go on the wall but surely at eye level when your sat down makes more sense.
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