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Jaloopa
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 29 Jan 2015    Post subject: Brake disk getting rusty Reply with quote

My brake disk gets a very visible film of rust over it when left overnight, even with a cover over the bike (covering it does seem to help a bit, but not hugely).

Most mornings, it's also a little bit seized up, and the wheel won't move without rocking the bike forwards and back a bit.

Two questions:
1 - is it dangerous? When running I never see any signs that the brake is in danger of seizing, but could it happen?
2 - What can I do about it? Oiling on a brake is obviously a bad idea, but is there any other way short of getting a new disk/pads?

The bike is a 1995 Kawasaki ZZR600, if that's important.
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 29 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

rusty discs are a good sign, means they have a high iron content, its when they dont rust you get worried

normal usage will wear the rust off

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PostPosted: 13:47 - 29 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Brake disk getting rusty Reply with quote

Yup, it's fine. But...

Jaloopa wrote:
Most mornings, it's also a little bit seized up, and the wheel won't move without rocking the bike forwards and back a bit.

I'd clean the calipers and pistons.
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 29 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are they cheap Chinese aftermarket ones? If so that is a feature, they cost something like £20 a pop in China so that's the quality you get (the £100 added when they make it to eBay is just the round-eye tax).
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Jaloopa
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 29 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
Are they cheap Chinese aftermarket ones?


Don't know, they were already on there when I bought it in November.

The last owner didn't seem the type to cheap out on parts though

mudcow007 wrote:
rusty discs are a good sign

Fair enough. Never noticed it on my old ER5, so I wasn't sure. Cheers
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 29 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

also worth remembering loads of salt on the roads at the moment, which will make rusty crustyness look worserer

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PostPosted: 16:26 - 29 Jan 2015    Post subject: Re: Brake disk getting rusty Reply with quote

Jaloopa wrote:
My brake disk gets a very visible film of rust over it when left overnight, even with a cover over the bike (covering it does seem to help a bit, but not hugely).

Most mornings, it's also a little bit seized up, and the wheel won't move without rocking the bike forwards and back a bit.



Seems a little strange if used every day! Quite likely cheap discs if filming up over just one night.
As Roger said, check your calipers and pistons for easy movement, even with a furred up disc you should have no problem moving a bike that's only been parked up overnight. Probably be needing new pads too if they've been running tight, you may be able to dress them to remove a hard polish on the surface but if it's been run like it for a while the likelihood is that they'll either be cooked or running low.
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wr6133
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 29 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaloopa wrote:


Don't know, they were already on there when I bought it in November.

The last owner didn't seem the type to cheap out on parts though


If they look like these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-ZXR-400-ZZR600-ZZR-600-ZR7-ZX4-ZZR400-ZR550-FRONT-REAR-BRAKE-DISC-NEW-/321384847240?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item4ad4079788 then he cheaped out and the rusting overnight is pretty much to be expected
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 31 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's nothing unusual about it, especially at this time of year. Some mornings my car gives a good crack from the rear discs after the handbrake's been on all night and the film of rust on the disc is broken.

I don't often take the bike out in wet, salty conditions but I'd imagine it would be similar.

Discs are most commonly made from cast iron so they're bound to rust very quickly.
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 31 Jan 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cant say for other brands but EBC discs (£300 a pair) rust faster than you can "rusty" couple miles and they are fine. another to note is that the HH pads will corrode to the disc if left - I have had it happen over night to some degree, a quick rock back and forth normally frees thing up. sometimes its takes more if left for longer.
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