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Iain.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 02 Feb 2015    Post subject: Look who's back... Reply with quote

https://www.hyosunguk.co.uk/

Now being imported by MotoGB, the same guys who are doing Enfield.

Interesting Thinking
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 02 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't realise they had left.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 02 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrDonnyBrago wrote:
Didn't realise they had left.


https://www.hyosung.co.uk/

Importer bailed out a few years ago, as was looking for a GT250 when I passed my 33bhp licence.


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PostPosted: 11:54 - 02 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm liking that GD250R. I bet it uses the the Honda CBR250 engine though like the Daelim VJR. They should've at least made a 300cc model to compete with the Kawasaki & KTM.
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 02 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always wondered where people who own Hyosung bikes get their parts from, I've seen the 250 and 125 sports models and stayed away because of the lack of support.

I'd leave it a while before buying one however just because they could do the same as prior and withdraw from the country then you're left with an expensive bike that's not useable chinese brands have more support and reliability to me at the moment.

+ The nearest dealership to my post code is over 50 miles away in macclesfield.. clearly just starting out or shops don't want to sell there brand.. defiantly wouldn't invest yet as nice as the bikes look.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 02 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shame, the GT650 comes nowhere near the SV650 price tag, which is likely the all round better bike Sad Nice to see them changing from V twins though... however that was part of the charm.
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 02 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

iginge wrote:
clearly just starting out or shops don't want to sell there brand.. defiantly wouldn't invest yet as nice as the bikes look.


https://www.motogb.co.uk/

We're a dealer for MotoGB, so I'm on their site fairly often....this is new for 2015, definately wasn't there in December. Companys been pretty decent for us with Keeway & Enfield parts so I can't see there being any issues with the spares network.

Thing is, Honda are running the CBR250R....Kawasaki have the Ninja 250SL and Z250 single cylinder bikes running alongside the Ninja 300/Z300 twin cylinder bikes this year. KTM had a 200 duke diddn't they? So really the only firm that havent got a 250 and a 300 covered are Yamaha.

Paddy. wrote:
the GT650 comes nowhere near the SV650 price tag


Wut? GT650 is £200 cheaper than an SV and an SVF!

SVF - 53.00kW @ 8400rpm (71.00hp) £4999
SV - 53.00kW @ 9000rpm (71.00hp) £4975
GT- 58.9 kW @9,000 rpm (79.0 hp) £4799

You're also getting more horsepowers and a full fairing Thinking

https://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/motorcycles/motorcycles/
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 02 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting though I think they'll fail again. Too much money for something relatively unknown.

I always liked this https://www.hyosunguk.co.uk/hyosung-model-details?id=376 to go with a set of arseless chaps but circa £3400 OTR.... lol, too many viable, proven 2nd hand jap models cost a lot less.

and this https://www.hyosunguk.co.uk/hyosung-model-details?id=382 is going to be close to £4600 OTR... what's a brand new SV going for now?

Add to that some Chinese bikes in the smaller displacement category seem to be gaining better acceptance and cost less, I can't see this going well. Also haven't Daelim got the market on Korean small displacement bikes? Their little 125/250 sporty thing has been reviewing well.
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 02 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Infact pre-reg SV's are considerably cheaper

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAND-NEW-BARGAIN-SUZUKI-SV650SL2-IN-WHITE-OR-BLACK-ONLY-3899-00-/390789761852?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item5afce28b3c - £3899

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-SV650S-/141445273349?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item20eecb9705 - £3999
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 02 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iain. wrote:

Thing is, Honda are running the CBR250R....Kawasaki have the Ninja 250SL and Z250 single cylinder bikes running alongside the Ninja 300/Z300 twin cylinder bikes this year. KTM had a 200 duke diddn't they? So really the only firm that havent got a 250 and a 300 covered are Yamaha.



Yamaha have the R3 don't they? Confused Isn't that coming to our shores this year? My point was that that sector of the market has moved on. You have the Benelli BN302 competing with the kawasaki ninja 300 & the duke 390, the other manufacturers should be doing the same having said that that GD250R is a really good price. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 02 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

BenR wrote:
Yamaha have the R3 don't they?


Yup, but they don't have a 250 option whereas KTM, Suzuki, Kawasaki, Hyosung and Honda do.

KTM stuck with their 200cc Duke alongside the new 390 Duke & Kawasaki brought out two new 250 models for the UK to go alongside the 300cc bikes.

Have ridden the Ninja 250SL already & it's a totally different machine to the old Ninja 250...I doubt it shares one component with it. But it means when someone looks at A2 legal Kawasaki's there's a dirtbike, two sportsbikes and three nakeds, and a retro to choose from. Honda's CBR250 is again new...I mean we're seeing loads of all new 250cc bikes this year. I don't think the markets moved on at all, I think that the licence regulations are making manufacturers need more choices for the small capacity market now the licence regs changed.
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 02 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

BenR wrote:
Iain. wrote:

Thing is, Honda are running the CBR250R....Kawasaki have the Ninja 250SL and Z250 single cylinder bikes running alongside the Ninja 300/Z300 twin cylinder bikes this year. KTM had a 200 duke diddn't they? So really the only firm that havent got a 250 and a 300 covered are Yamaha.



Yamaha have the R3 don't they? Confused Isn't that coming to our shores this year? My point was that that sector of the market has moved on. You have the Benelli BN302 competing with the kawasaki ninja 300 & the duke 390, the other manufacturers should be doing the same having said that that GD250R is a really good price. Thumbs Up


Yeah, they do. not much else though, but perhaps they think for what they would reap back in profits it is not worth introducing 250/300cc bikes into their UK range..

I mean exactly how many KTM/Kawasaki/Honda/Suzuki 250/300s do you actually see? me, not alot at all!
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 02 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
Infact pre-reg SV's are considerably cheaper

You don't even need to go pre-reg, my local Suzuki dealer stickers new bikes at about £500 lower than Suzuki RRP.

MotoGB need to let their dealer across the road from me know that they're stocking Hyosungs now, because having looked at their stock this weekend, it would seem otherwise.

They've just stopped selling Enfields after a very brief dalliance, and I really don't know where they'd find room for Hyosungs in among the Baotian, Daelim, Genata, Keeway, Lexmoto, Sinnis, WKs (including the 650s) and Zontes bikes that they already sell. This is an outfit that doesn't do test rides, at all, and has a "take it or leave it" attitude.

So, good luck persuading me to pay Suzuki prices for an also-ran Chinky[*] bike from a back lot dealer. Same old same old.

Korean car manufacturers had to offer 5 and 7 year warranties to be taken seriously. I don't see why it would be any different for Hyosung.

[*] Might as well be when you come to sell it.
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
i quite like the look of that 250, being a fan of smaller bikes & single cylinders.
i also liked the look of the gt/r 125 & 650.
wouldnt buy any of them though, especially new. it would depreciate by 50% as soon as it was registered.
i dont understand how a maker with very little history can justify the kind of prices they were (& again are) asking, even though the bikes actually had decent reputations.
why not chuck in a 5yr warrantly like daewoo etc do? if they cant list the bikes for a grand less than the big manufacturers they need to do something to make them an attractive option, especially when introducing a completely new model (that 250) with no history at all.
maybe then the importers would keep importing them & owners might be able to get parts.

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PostPosted: 11:02 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stirlinggaz wrote:
even though the bikes actually had decent reputations.

Did they? 125 reviews are always gushing because mah frist bieke iz awsurm!!!!!11!!! We had a happy 250 owner on here, but I'm not sure I ever read a positive long term review of the 650s.

Possibly because few people bought them. It appears that they sold more of the cruisers than they ever did of the naked and plastic 650s, even though it was the latter that got the attention as SV alternatives.

They keep calling themselves "In-Credible". Non, perhaps. Oooh, burn.
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm kind of glad they are back too, and though I've never ridden any of them I quite liked the looks of some of them, and the 28bhp 250cc V-twins I would have liked to try out for a blast too.

Even that 650cc Cruiser thing looks a bit more styled than something like a Dragstar or Intruder etc.

Not that I'd ever buy or want to ride a 650cc cruiser, as if I went all out for the low feet out sea of chrome look, it's have to be one of those 1800-2000cc Suzuki's, the KTM supermoto wasting awesome models! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Look who's back... Reply with quote

Iain. wrote:
https://www.hyosunguk.co.uk/

Now being imported by MotoGB, the same guys who are doing Enfield.

Interesting Thinking



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I`ve had no major issues with my GT 250r EFI , but it`s nice to know that there may? be some support if thing do start to go west.
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stirlinggaz wrote:

i quite like the look of that 250, being a fan of smaller bikes & single cylinders.

GAZ


Shocked Fookin ell! , I thought I was the only person in the entire world who was a fan of 250`s, smaller bikes (engine wise), and singles.
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
MotoGB need to let their dealer across the road from me know that they're stocking Hyosungs now, because having looked at their stock this weekend, it would seem otherwise.


Importer (MotoGB) imports bikes. Dealer (Blokey across the road) decides what he wants to deal in. For example, I sell Oxford security stuff & hotgrips...but don't stock HJC lids, or Alpinestars leathers despite Oxford products being the importer/supplier for both.

Supermoto_Fan wrote:
I mean exactly how many KTM/Kawasaki/Honda/Suzuki 250/300s do you actually see?


Can't speak for the rest...but we sold three Ninja 300's compared to one 636, and one ZX10-R. Took two twin cylinder Ninja 250's in p/x and they sold quickly too. Currently demoing a Ninja 250SL and the rumour mill says we're getting a Z300 demonstrator aswell.

From what I've seen - And this may vary massively depending on area etc, people would rather have a small bike they don't have to bother restricting up.

Due to the change in licence laws, seems people are buying differently Thinking
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iain. wrote:
Importer (MotoGB) imports bikes. Dealer (Blokey across the road) decides what he wants to deal in.

Sure, but MotoGB have Blokey Across The Road listed as a dealer, right now, when I believe that they don't have any bikes. Let's ask...

<ring ring>

... OK, as it turns out, they will be getting them in. Thumbs Up

"Some time in the next 12 weeks, probably." Thumbs Down

Actually, pretty much the same answer as when I asked them about the Pulse Adrenaline 250 last year. Thinking

Iain. wrote:
people would rather have a small bike they don't have to bother restricting up.

I agree with people. I rode out my 25kW on a 300, geared for 25kW speeds (that'll keep G happy anyway). Why haul around more bike with piss poor power to weight - might as well be riding an Enfield a cruiser. Whistle
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