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kramdra
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PostPosted: 00:47 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Royalmail bastards Reply with quote

Was expecting some bike parts to be delivered to work. First time I'd used royal mail with my work address. Item was sent Tracked48, which doesn't need a signature.

Delivered Wednesday at 10am, but WHERE was it delivered? Postmans pocket? because I didnt receive anything. Its not even anything of value, its an engine generator case, rotor and stator. Postie claims he was ill. Delivery office claim it was left outside on a table. 9 people working in office (upstairs), door open, noone knocked.. I think it was chucked in a skip so he could take an afternoon off.

Chance of getting my money back from ebay/paypal?!? tracked48 has compensation, so the seller can claim for it, he chose the delivery service.

not happy Mad especially as this means I cant trust my work address for post, which will be a massive inconvenience Sad
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PostPosted: 08:44 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contact the seller via eBay. You won't find a solution here.
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Royalmail bastards Reply with quote

kramdra wrote:
Delivered Wednesday at 10am

No it wasn't, and it's not your problem to resolve it. Item not received, job done.
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Royalmail bastards Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

No it wasn't, and it's not your problem to resolve it. Item not received, job done.

I've got a feeling ebay/paypal will often see that as his problem, if the seller has 'proof of delivery'.
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Royalmail bastards Reply with quote

G wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:

No it wasn't, and it's not your problem to resolve it. Item not received, job done.

I've got a feeling ebay/paypal will often see that as his problem, if the seller has 'proof of delivery'.

Not to the buyer, they don't.

No need to wrangle prematurely, is my point. eBay provides a mechanism for this. Just use it, escalate to drama only as necessary.
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Royalmail bastards Reply with quote

Seen a case of that recently.
Ok, it was myhermes not RM.

Not exactly the same, but...
Buyer said "not arrived".
Buyer requests money back I think.
Seller was going to (may have tried) to put buyer in touch with courier).
Denied.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

What, the buyer was denied?

But... as a buyer, I don't have a contract with the courier.

One of the reasons why I prefer eBay and PayPal is that buyer protection is excellent and largely hassle free. If that's changing, then it'll be to Amazon's benefit.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
What, the buyer was denied?

Yep.

Luckily I was sitting down when I was told!
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems Ebay are getting better at being less one sided.


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PostPosted: 14:53 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sid has been pacing the hallway for the last few days waiting for an overdue parcel via Royal Mail.

Good job he was on his toes today. The letter box rattled and he got to the door literally as the "Sorry you were out" card hit the mat only to see postie legging it down the front path.

Sid gave chase and the postie (real name Linford) got part-way up the road before being collared and forced to hand over the parcel.

Why do they do that then?
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a cunt, sid should have fucked him up.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracey Suntan-King wrote:
Why do they do that then?
Time pressures, and not caring about their job. it's quicker to assume that you're not in, scribble on a card and run, than it is to hammer on the door for a minute and then get the card and pen out.
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
What a cunt, sid should have fucked him up.


He was bigger than me and I don't need an ASBO! Mr. Green

What I can't fathom is, we had 1 day of road closures, due to snow!
For some reason that 1 day has lead to a 4 working day delay in the post! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Royalmail bastards Reply with quote

kramdra wrote:

Wednesday at 10am,


And a week later, all you're doing about it is gossiping about it here.
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracey Suntan-King wrote:


Good job he was on his toes today. The letter box rattled and he got to the door literally as the "Sorry you were out" card hit the mat only to see postie legging it down the front path.

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Are you sure the 'Sorry you were out', note wasn't from the day before but had be trapped in the letter box? That happened to me very recently. I asked postie why he didn't knock.... He pointed on the nite was from the day before and do he was right.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Royalmail bastards Reply with quote

Ebay usually seems to side with buyer, but not if there is "proof" like tracking, hence why I'm asking you knowledgeable sods.

Had similar thing before, item from china, after 5 days it was in UK with royal mail, but a month later it hadnt moved. I opened a claim and waited the week. End of week, asap I clicked request a refund at 9am. Couple of hours later it was delivered, refund denied before I could cancel.

So although my many feedbacks are perfect, ebay might think Im a robbing pikey. I have 4 other requests/partial refunds because stuff has been shit out of 200 Laughing

I sent seller a message asking for the full refund, and spoke to royal mail again. Claims process can take 90 days Mad Im not expecting seller will refund unless ebay forces him to, therefore I might be better off asking for the required details/proof of postage to make a claim myself Sad

I dont do bureaucracy well, so the claims process not be what they expect.
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Royalmail bastards Reply with quote

I believe it's only the sender that can do the claim.
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 03 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russian Rum wrote:
Tracey Suntan-King wrote:


Good job he was on his toes today. The letter box rattled and he got to the door literally as the "Sorry you were out" card hit the mat only to see postie legging it down the front path.

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Are you sure the 'Sorry you were out', note wasn't from the day before but had be trapped in the letter box? That happened to me very recently. I asked postie why he didn't knock.... He pointed on the nite was from the day before and do he was right.


It's a good theory but not the case here. We'd already had stuff through the letter box before the "incident".

PS I like your new name, is there a story there? Trouble is whenever I see your posts it makes me want to drink.
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 04 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may have queered your pitch by asking for delivery to a business address, but I'd argue that the contract is still to deliver it to you.

Have you really not opened a dispute? Do you imagine that it might still somehow turn up? Eh?
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 04 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracey Suntan-King wrote:

PS I like your new name, is there a story there? Trouble is whenever I see your posts it makes me want to drink.


Laughing

Do they even make Rum in Russia? I know of 'White' and 'Black' Russians.

Rekon I may come across as a drunk foreigner in tasteful attire (see pic) singing https://youtu.be/kvDMlk3kSYg

The username is the competition name for 'Ed', a Russian horse I owned. Ed being his stable name.

Was going to change it, partly because being introduced as 'Russian Rum', would be really quite peculiar. Still, It could have been 'Rasputin' (his original name) Thinking . . . .


OP, hope your package arrives. I had some bobbins delivered to work and didn't see then for a couple of weeks after they were delivered ... Mind you, I work for quite a big company.
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 04 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
You may have queered your pitch by asking for delivery to a business address, but I'd argue that the contract is still to deliver it to you.

Have you really not opened a dispute? Do you imagine that it might still somehow turn up? Eh?



No I opened one straight away. Ordered last weekend by economy post, but Friday no package. I then asked for tracking number/details, it said delivered Wednesday. Opened a dispute and told seller I would check at work and check with postman/delivery office on Monday. Monday evening the chances of it turning up became slim (they insist it was delivered and left outside) so I told seller I want a full refund. Then I made this thread.

Seller has not bothered to reply Sad so somehow Ive got to force royalmail to change the status to lost, before ebay check the tracking to close dispute.


If I dont get it, or money back, its going to cost royalmail a lot more.
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 04 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phone eBay and explain it all to them.
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PostPosted: 01:16 - 05 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

it might take a while but you'll get your money back from ebay/paypal. there's no proof of delivery, i think it's that simple. No-one has signed for it and I can't see how "left on a table outside" is proof of anything. as said in this thread already- sellers problem, not yours
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 07 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Phone eBay and explain it all to them.


Have a phone number? not seeing one.

My case in resolution centre has reached the next stage where I can ask ebay to step in and help, but each time I try I get an error Mad there seems no way to contact ebay other than this.

Paypal wont let me open a case as one is open in ebay. Next time I'm going through paypal.
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