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PostPosted: 06:04 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Aftermarket exhausts on restricted Yama MT-07 (35kw 47bhp) Reply with quote

Hola amigos!

So I'm yet to actually buy my 'Dark Side' (MT-07) but have already spent hours going through the aftermarket parts and accessories I plan on getting. Primarily speaking, a new pipe!

Does anyone know if adding an aftermarket can will invalidate insurance/license etc? Particularly tempted by SC Project, Leo Vince and Two Brothers. I'm not looking for a system that's guna eek out more power as that will clearly put me over the limit, I simply need to make more noise, the stock can is dangerously quiet.

Have also read on another forum that some people had problems with the performance (namely fuel economy and backfires) after adding a new full system but this was not for an MT-07 so I thought it may differ from bike to bike.

Thanks in advance for any titbits you might have! Smile

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PostPosted: 07:39 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exhausts are a very personal thing, but unless I had a bike that had terrible ground clearance or was truly hideous with the standard exhaust, then id only ever want to change a pipe (and a full system at that) to help increase bhp and or torque with appropriate tuning to suit.
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PostPosted: 07:45 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Exhausts are a very personal thing, but unless I had a bike that had terrible ground clearance or was truly hideous with the standard exhaust, then id only ever want to change a pipe (and a full system at that) to help increase bhp and or torque with appropriate tuning to suit.


Well according to nearly every report from owners, this particular pipe is just too damn quiet.. People don't hear them coming. And as I'll be doing lots of traffic weaving that is a legitimate problem quite apart from the aesthetics of how it sounds and looks..
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PostPosted: 08:06 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the bike first...
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PostPosted: 08:22 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supermoto_Fan wrote:
Get the bike first...


I agree with the sentiment but providing it doesn't invalidate anything or negatively impact the performance of the bike I will definitely be changing it.. I haven't found a single person who's happy with it so far and a lot of people openly unhappy with it Razz

I'm also trying to reduce time spent getting it all together as i work abroad 20 days a month which is quite inconvenient.. Have been hoping to have everything lined up and in place for April, if I wait and get the bike first that will probably end up being another whole month until i have the can in my hands let alone fitting it.
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Aftermarket exhausts on restricted Yama MT-07 (35kw 47bh Reply with quote

CVSensei wrote:
Does anyone know if adding an aftermarket can will invalidate insurance

Depends on the exhaust and the insurer. Since you haven't got either yet, that'd be a question for them. However, we've had several people say that aftermarket parts including exhausts have not been an issue during post-crash insurance assessments.


CVSensei wrote:
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Factually, same as above. Practically, no problem. As long as you've got a piece of paper saying "Is 35kW, legit" I can't see it being an issue.
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PostPosted: 09:04 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Aftermarket exhausts on restricted Yama MT-07 (35kw 47bh Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
CVSensei wrote:
Does anyone know if adding an aftermarket can will invalidate insurance

Depends on the exhaust and the insurer. Since you haven't got either yet, that'd be a question for them. However, we've had several people say that aftermarket parts including exhausts have not been an issue during post-crash insurance assessments.


CVSensei wrote:
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Factually, same as above. Practically, no problem. As long as you've got a piece of paper saying "Is 35kW, legit" I can't see it being an issue.


That's great to know, thank you sir! Smile

I don't suppose you're aware of whether it will adversely affect the performance of the bike? I could understand how it might (admittedly with my limited mechanical knowledge).
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea, chap.

I would be a little bit cautious on that particular bike though. When I've dicked around with exhausts the drop in back-pressure or scavenging has tended to induce a hesitation at low revs, just above idle. Given the issues that the MT-07 already has with that, and that you'll already be doing juju to it with a restrictor (I assume) then it would give me pause for thought.
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right'o.. I guess I'll have to take it up with my local and see what they think, thanks for your input, much appreciated.
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Various comparisons here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLVU2hn4T94 The Yamaha approved Akra seems favourite.

Also if you haven't found this site yet it's certainly worth perusal, some pretty useful info therein. https://www.motorcycle-talk.net/forum/forum.php
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

YBR Ric wrote:
Various comparisons here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLVU2hn4T94

and if you haven't found this site yet it's certainly worth perusal, some pretty useful info therein. https://www.motorcycle-talk.net/forum/forum.php


I'm at work at the moment so can't check out the youtube link, but thanks. Yep I'm a member of that forum already and started a thread on it but no replies as of yet.. Saw someone else ask it as well in another thread and he got no love Sad
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that you should get the bike first, then ride it and have fun on it. Youbook and facetube ruined your judgement.
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think that you should get the bike first, then ride it and have fun on it. Youbook and facetube ruined your judgement.


Haha I'm sure I'll have barrels of fun on it either way.. I am however set on a new pipe if I can. I'm a sucker for a deep growl, its what actually drew me into motorcycling in the first place!

You say it ruined my judgment.. Have you got personal experience with these machines in the flesh and disagree with me or just having a dig at researching online Wink
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

CVSensei wrote:
You say it ruined my judgment.. Have you got personal experience with these machines in the flesh and disagree with me or just having a dig at researching online Wink


Well, not this one, but various motorcycles with various engine layouts and displacements with various exhaust systems.

I might be getting old, but after the '88 GPz I had, the noise got overrated to me. Having a short run with loud pipes is fun, but when you have to do 200 miles on it, you get tired pretty soon, even though I wore ear plugs.

Just for the laughs, my neighbor is over 60 years old, has Ninja 250 with that short, small Ixil double pipe exhaust. You can hear him miles away, well he is a bit deaf though. Smile
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Having a short run with loud pipes is fun, but when you have to do 200 miles on it, you get tired pretty soon


Haha fair enough pal, I can understand that.. Bare in mind though that this is my first 'big' bike.. I've only ridden a 125 for half a year and that was a Sinnis with stock exhaust so I think it's safe to say the novelty of a twin Yamaha with a nice shiny new pipe won't wear off for a good while yet Wink

Also I won't be using it on commutes or long journeys, this will purely be for pleasure - I work abroad for 20 days a month so this will be my way of letting of steam.. *Ahem* Co2! Wink
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And as I'll be doing lots of traffic weaving that is a legitimate problem

I won't be using it on commutes or long journeys, this will purely be for pleasure



So where does the "Lots of traffice weaving" come into pleasure riding?

Do not fall into the trap that a noisy exhaust will help drivers hear you..... Loud radio or talking away. And its pointless....

Keep it std for a while and see how it goes before spending extra money that may cause more problems then it solves..
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also in the keep it standard camp most run much better standard unless you spend a shed load getting a full re- tune

Most if not all restrict kits specify standard exhaust
Most insurers expect you to notify i.e. pay more fro after
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 09 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your thoughts folks, I'm going to speak to my local mechanics and dealer and make up my mind from there.. if i even have a choice!
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PostPosted: 02:06 - 11 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fit louder horn, know when to use it. Cagers do not care about your loud exhaust.
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PostPosted: 06:50 - 11 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye, louder horn and slower pace will help to avoid collision, not loud exhaust... Unobservant Cager is Unobservant Cager no matter what.

If the standard exhaust is good condition, why change anyways.
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PostPosted: 07:37 - 11 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I've had a look at horn replacements already.. To be honest one of the main factors for me wanting to change it is purely aesthetics. I want to refine it to a nice deep rumble rather than the reportedly feeble whine of the stock can. Have considered just taking out the baffle of the stock, might be a good middle-ground, would any advise against that? If so how come?

At the end of the day I'm going to wait until i have it in front of me to make the final decision but i appreciate all your advice and experience beforehand.
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