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PostPosted: 20:04 - 10 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

About 7-14 days, but you can ride even though ask mid is not up date. As far as I know the police/ANPR use a different insurance database.

Have you got a copy of your insurance certificate through, if so just carry it with you, the 5-0 can call your insurance company to confirm your insured, if it comes to it.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 10 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Generally how long does askmid take to update? Reply with quote

BodyGuard wrote:

Currently using my business phone for work as my social phone it is shit so I can't show the insurance certificate to plod on my phone if I were to ride and went past an ANPR equipped vehicle nor do I have a printer.


Surely your local library have a computer/printer your can use

or a friend perhaps .............. oh wait
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 10 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Askmid is just a useful app and not a legal binding up to date data base.

It is more a telling you what he weather is doing rather than getting meteorological facts correct.

The Police will have a more up to date system, but still can be out by a few days.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 10 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

BodyGuard wrote:

Go to the public library with the smelly mongs.


Libraries have standards, it's unlikely they'll let you in as you are way below their minimum criteria.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 10 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm just ride?.......
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 10 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as it's legal then it's legal. Carry as much proof with you as needed to prove who you are, the Police can and will confirm with you / your insurer if they need to.

However, as a bodyguard and former Varadero owner / mad skillz welder - you will be excluded from the checks made against mere mortals.
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 10 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

BodyGuard wrote:

So my options are if it is not updated over night;
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Go to the public library full of people who can read.

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PostPosted: 20:23 - 10 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just tell mr policeman you have insurance and with what company. If out of hours then they can confirm the next day.

I've had it were it took them a couple of weeks to update. I wanted to tax online after buying my bike but after a couple of days of it not being updated had to get the insurance to email me the documents so I could print off and go tax at post office.
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 10 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

BodyGuard wrote:


Buy an over priced printer from Argos tomorrow.

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30quid or 35 for a WiFi one

Not overpriced really is it
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 10 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyscooter wrote:
30quid or 35 for a WiFi one

Not overpriced really is it

No, it is the ink that's overpriced.
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 10 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Generally how long does askmid take to update? Reply with quote

BodyGuard wrote:
Currently using my business phone for work as my social phone it is shit

You have no way to show a document on your non-shit business phone?

BodyGuard wrote:
Having recently lost my 47BHP restriction certificate

Have you checked under the seat on the R6?
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 10 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would jotting down the details (policy number, company, that kind of thing) on a piece of paper not help? I know it'd have no legal standing but it'd give the Police a start on checking your insurance if they stop you?
Or, of course, you could try to just not ride like a 'tard until you've got your documents sorted (and found the restriction certificate)!
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 10 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Generally how long does askmid take to update? Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
BodyGuard wrote:
Having recently lost my 47BHP restriction certificate

Have you checked under the seat on the R6?

Brilliant!
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 10 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Generally how long does askmid take to update? Reply with quote

BodyGuard wrote:
I do not want to have to cancel because my new bike is not yet showing as insured on MID.


I imagine if you were to return the policy back to the Mighty Varadero you'd have the same issue there - that'd take a couple of days from now to show up on MID as well?
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 11 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because it's not on website doesn't mean you aren't insured. The time and date that is on your policy is when it starts.

When I insured my bike I selected half our in the future, got my documents (on their website when I log in) and I was covered from then, didn't show on ask mid for ages.

Works the other way round as well, cancel your policy and you're not covered, although ask mid takes a week or two to update.
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PostPosted: 07:44 - 11 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

duhawkz wrote:
About 7-14 days


There's an agreed SLA of 5 days max for 95% of policies. Well there was circa 5 years ago, and I'd suggest that timescale would have only been made tighter.

Straight through EDI policy is pretty much instant.
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 11 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if you had the documents if it was not on the database the police would still have to phone the insurance company.

For all the police they know you could have got insurance and shortly after had it cancelled so they would still need to check.
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 11 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

some companies policies don't show up on the MID ever

on this basis you assume you're not insured and won't collect a bike you've bought?

you know if you're insured or not, Mr Plod can find out

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PostPosted: 10:20 - 11 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Generally how long does askmid take to update? Reply with quote

BodyGuard wrote:
my new bike is not yet showing as insured on MID.
Dare I ask, what's your new bike?
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 11 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Generally how long does askmid take to update? Reply with quote

Baffler186 wrote:
BodyGuard wrote:
my new bike is not yet showing as insured on MID.
Dare I ask, what's your new bike?

R6 but it's not yet showing up on cameras.


monkeybiker wrote:
Even if you had the documents if it was not on the database the police would still have to phone the insurance company.

For all the police they know you could have got insurance and shortly after had it cancelled so they would still need to check.

And what follows if the phone monkey gets it wrong, as happened in Pryor v Greater Manchester Police?

The answer to that is why we should always keep a copy of our certificates of insurance (paper or electronic) to hand, regardless of what coppers, MID, ANPR or even our insurers might happen to believe is the truth at any given point.
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 11 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just for information, there has never been any form of requirement to carry a restriction certificate and it has always been the burden of the police to prove you are riding outside the bounds of your licence.

Just so everyone knows.
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 11 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

temeluchus wrote:
here has never been any form of requirement to carry a restriction certificate and it has always been the burden of the police to prove you are riding outside the bounds of your licence.

Correct, but I'd note that police can and do get motoring convictions based purely on their opinion, and their word against yours.

And not just on subjective standards like careful or considerate driving, but on quantifiable, objective charges like speeding. That explicitly requires two coppers' opinion. Otherwise than in accordance does not.

Accusation: "Bike in standard form is over 35kW. Particularindividual was travelling / accelerating at a rate that in my expert opinion was grossly excessive for a restricted motorcycle. Particularindividual failed to offer any explanation for that and did not produce any evidence of restriction. Expertly examined and tested bike and found no signs of restriction."

I wouldn't want to go up on front of the magistrates or a sheriff with a defence of "Nuh huh, filth didn't prove it or nothing."
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