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sabian92
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Licence dilemma, wat do? Reply with quote

Afternoon BCF. Not posted for a while.

Currently I've got no bike as I sold it to fund a car (and I didn't have room to store it over winter anyway, at least not indoors). I've got my theory and A1 mod 1 out the way, and I attempted (and failed) mod 2 last year.

I'm 22 (23 in July) so I'm debating what the best route to take is licence wise - continue with my A1 and hold on till I'm 24 next year and do my A tests, or do my A2 now?

A2 bikes are cheaper to insure and buy than 125s anyway but is it worth paying again to do my A2 (and paying for lessons as well as I've only ridden 125s) tests? I do want a bike for summer, I know that much.

My CBT expires in August so I don't really have that long before I need to do one or the other if I need lessons etc. I know it's only February but time flies.

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PostPosted: 13:30 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

With no bike and no license at the moment, I reckon I'd go for a taught A2.

There's no point in doing a taught A1, and you don't want to be buying a 125 either because of the possi-probability of being told "Won't swap insurance to bigger bike" - regardless of what the broker commission monkey may tell you beforehand.

Maybe see if you can blag a go on a training school's A2 bike in their yard to see how you get on. If you take to it again, book a course. If you don't, consider getting a 125.
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I probably wouldn't bother doing the A1 test if I you're planning to do the A as soon as you turn 24 anyway. I would either:

Get another CBT in August, ride 125 + L's till 24th birthday, do full A test.

or

Do A2 test now, opens up a whole bunch of nice bikes that are, or can be made, A2 legal, plenty of power for everyday real life license retaining riding, then plan to maybe do the A "at some point" in the future if you feel the need. Then you have a non-expiring license, don't have to faff about with theory tests and rushing to do the A before CBT expires etc.

The A1 seems a bit of a waste, unless you already had a 125 sitting around and a pressing need to carry a pillion or use motorways. Even then I'd still want to do the A2 as either of those tasks on a 125 is sub-obtimal to say the least.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought similar as I'd rather avoid a 125 (being a fat lump, they're hardly quick Laughing) but either way I'm paying out again next year to sit my unrestricted, big boy licence.

The other option is to sit my mod 2 for my A1, not buy a bike, sit my tests again next year and then get an A-capable bike, but having not ridden for 18 months I'd probably fire it into a tree/orphanage/kitten shelter within the first 5 minutes.

I don't have a need to carry pillions (the only person I would carry is my brother and he's got a bike anyway) or use motorways, I've just backed myself into a corner a little bit with these "new" licensing rules.

A bike for me is strictly for pleasure - I use my car for work so I wouldn't ride it to work anyway. It's just for pottering about on/going out on the weekends/maybe a long weekend tour.
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
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Get a job & stop using my tax monies to fund your playthings. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 14:17 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iain. wrote:


Get a job & stop using my tax monies to fund your playthings. Rolling Eyes

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sabian92 wrote:

A bike for me is strictly for pleasure - I use my car for work so I wouldn't ride it to work anyway. It's just for pottering about on/going out on the weekends/maybe a long weekend tour.


Fuck off. Middle Finger I have a job, I pay tax and national insurance, so give me advice, don't lecture me you moron. I pay into the system, I just take some out again. You would if you could, no doubt.

Would you like my payslip to satisfy your retardedness?


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PostPosted: 14:18 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:42 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody else fancy being a moron or am I actually going to get advice?

Because if I'm not I may as well ask a mod to close this now before it turns into a shitfest.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have been here two years you should be used to this lot by now


Maybe try mumsnet
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

sabian92 wrote:
Because if I'm not I may as well ask a mod to close this now before it turns into a shitfest.


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PostPosted: 16:03 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have an issue with people being the way they are on here, but when every fucking thread I post turns into "hurr get a jerb faget dunt spend muh taxes" it gets old, quickly.

I've got a job, and my OP didn't even relate to work. I asked for opinions on what the best way to do it was. Not "Can I have moar taxes pl0x" (which are actually state benefits I'm entitled to, but that's not for this thread).

Fuck me, you'd think I'd asked you lot to solve world hunger or some shit.
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It really comes down to how much money you have and how desperate you are to be back on a bike.
Lowest cost to end up with a full A is to forget it until you are 24, then redo CBT, theory and DAS.
Next cheapest is probably to grab yourself a 125, insure/tax it and do the A1 yourself. Then do DAS at 24.
Most expensive is to go to a school for A2 (the easiest way to get some practice on the big bike) and do A2, then do it all again when you are 24.
This way you do get a reasonable bike to ride around on for the next year though, rather than nothing or a 125.
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

sabian92 wrote:
Fuck me, you'd think I'd asked you lot to solve world hunger or some shit.


Dominos. That would solve world hunger, if they could actually deliver.

OP, can I has deliver?

But no, me being me, wait until 24 and BLAM, DAS.
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would retake CBT and go for DAS when you're old enough. Grab an old NSR and have fun.
Put the money on the side instead of taking the test and use it to buy a nice shiny bike.
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Agree really!

You've got a car to use to get you around for now, and so for the sake of 16months until your 24, I'd probably shelve 2wheels and get saving up for DAS and a big bad mutha of a bike for after the man from test centre says yes!

If you need 2nd transport and can afford a scabby 125, and only need a CBT to ride it for now, then that's a possible option, but paying to run a car anyway for A-B means you might as well park your leathers up for a year and save some money for a big comeback!
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

sabian92 wrote:
I don't have an issue with people being the way they are on here, but when every fucking thread I post turns into "hurr get a jerb faget dunt spend muh taxes" it gets old, quickly.


the answer to shuttin them up was at your own suggestion
ie. postin jpg. of pay slips or p60

and A2 is probably the best compromise for you atm.

I`m seen a few bikes (new) at my local dealers and they do look credible Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:24 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBT it till 24 and full fat A licence, not ideal but seems a waste paying for A2 for such a short time and A1... why bother. An NSR or something may make a 125 more fun.

Thumbs Up on getting a job.
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgot to add, if you're doing it for fun and not commuting... Assuming you have the car available always... There's plenty of ways to have fun on a 125. Cool
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 17 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

dandelion wrote:
I would retake CBT and go for DAS when you're old enough. Grab an old NSR and have fun.
Put the money on the side instead of taking the test and use it to buy a nice shiny bike.


Wouldn't that mean my theory pass would be invalidated then, as my CBT would have expired or does it still last the 2 years from the date I passed it?

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the answer to shuttin them up was at your own suggestion
ie. postin jpg. of pay slips or p60

and A2 is probably the best compromise for you atm.

I`m seen a few bikes (new) at my local dealers and they do look credible Thumbs Up


OP will delivar. Bit of a short month this month though, had a few days off Laughing

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Forgot to add, if you're doing it for fun and not commuting... Assuming you have the car available always... There's plenty of ways to have fun on a 125. Cool


True, but I'm a fat prick and a 125 won't do more than 55 with me on it Laughing need moar power.
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 18 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clear something up for me.

You receive Personal Independence Payment to help with some of the extra costs caused by a disability.

You say that you have dyspraxia, a developmental coordination disorder that affects motor coordination.

And you're asking which license you should get in order to buy ride an unstable 2 wheeled 2nd vehicle purely for pleasure purposes?

Is that a reasonable summary of the position?
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 18 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with the posts up there ^^.

Get a 125 until you can do your DAS at 24. As you say your riding will be rusty perhaps the smaller bike will be sufficient for now anyway.

Oh and get a proper 125. You know, a 2 stroke. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 10:22 - 18 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread got weird.
You need less weight rather than more power. How do you get fat on that wage? Mayonnaise sammich every meal?

Everytime a poorly paid under 24 pays for a restricted license and then does DAS a kitten dies and more importantly proves Brussels right.
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 18 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Clear something up for me.

You receive Personal Independence Payment to help with some of the extra costs caused by a disability.

You say that you have dyspraxia, a developmental coordination disorder that affects motor coordination.

And you're asking which license you should get in order to buy ride an unstable 2 wheeled 2nd vehicle purely for pleasure purposes?

Is that a reasonable summary of the position?


I do indeed. I have dyspraxia, I'm on the autistic spectrum and I've got ADHD (I take Ritalin for it, and pay for it as well, don't worry Rolling Eyes). I'm also on Citalopram for depression but that's irrelevant in this case.

It seems you have a bigger problem with the financial side of that rather than the fact I want a bike, would that be fair to say? End of the day, I didn't choose to have those issue Rogerborg, but I've got them. There are benefits for people with long term mental and physical conditions and if you're able to claim them, why wouldn't you? I'm a student, you can see how little I earn. In total, even with PIP, my student loans and my salary from work I'm on about 18k a year - which sounds a lot, yeah, but nearly 9k of that is from my loans. They'll go at the end of the next academic year. Living off 9k a year or so isn't exactly fun. All my loans go into my ISA at the moment because it'll be a nice lump sum once I'm in the position to buy a house.

I'd much rather not have dyspraxia, be on the autistic spectrum and not have ADHD than have the extra income but that's the way shit goes. Under the Equality Act 2010 I'm classed as disabled so I see no difference between me claiming and somebody on crutches - we're both disadvantaged, just mine are less obvious.

I wouldn't exactly say it was purely for pleasure purposes. Plus I only asked about licensing, not about bikes - the licence makes a difference, yeah, but I'm not in the market to buy a bike right now. I just don't want to have to resit my CBT because it's a lot of money for what it is (this to go, this to stop, don't die, sign here).

dandelion wrote:
This thread got weird.
You need less weight rather than more power. How do you get fat on that wage? Mayonnaise sammich every meal?

Everytime a poorly paid under 24 pays for a restricted license and then does DAS a kitten dies and more importantly proves Brussels right.


I was fat anyway Laughing but the anti-depressants I'm on make you gain weight like a motherfucker. I was on sertraline and I put on 2 stone in 2 weeks Shocked Fair enough, I don't eat brilliantly, but still. I do try and get to the gym every week etc.

Think my bicycle needs to come out of the shed a bit more. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 18 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taking the personality and the finances completely out of the equation...

Sure, only dream about biking for the next 16 or so months. Save your pennies so you can do the 'sensible' (i.e. slightly cheaper) option.

In about 15 months, the day after you have booked to do DAS, you might die. You might slip off a (perfectly well maintained so it's your fault) kerb and fall under a bus.

Well worth putting off something you enjoy eh? Especially to save something so transient as a little bit of cash.



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