scottoiler fails.

[mysterious_rider]

I bought a scottoiler second hand off the dreaded ebay and fitted it,
The fecking thing wont prime, or work at all in any way.

No matter what setting I have it doesnt work, ive attached the vacuum hose and with the bike on, off... nothing.

I tried blowing it from the drip pipe with an air line, bubbles did go up through the tube but nothing came out. It's like the system is too strong for my bike to suck.

anyone else had similar problems?


edit; When the bike is running I can see the diaphragm at the top of the oiler flutter.
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[James83]

From what I remember, your meant to use the filler bottle to prime it. Take the breather hose off the rubber bit that you plug into the fill port* and connect a scottoiler bottle. Then hold the bottle upright so no oil comes out and squeeze until the oil reaches the end of the tube.

*This thing
https://www.ktm950.info/how/Farkels/adventure/chain_oiler/scottoiler/035.jpg
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[mysterious_rider]

I'm not talking about the actual pipeline feeding my chain, i mean the actual unit itself, is dispensing nothing at all. There's a brass nipple at the bottom and I removed it, blew it through, and still nothing.

The unit I filled with duck oil for now, because it's easy to fill with that.
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[mysterious_rider]

The pressure helps im sure, but it doesnt drip at all.

I did check the hoses, maybe Il disconnect and check again.... I should make them shorter to improve sucking ability.
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[temeluchus]

https://www.scottoiler.com/component/option,com_docman/Itemid,/gid,637/task,doc_download/

you can also pull off the dispenser and use a small syringe to pull fluid through.
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[mysterious_rider]

i made a makeshift bottle with a tube, filled with oil, attached and squeezed hard. I got a tiny dribble... Nothing more. I'm going to send it back as faulty. I've tried the pressure priming to no avail.

shame.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Aren'y you supposed to just get a tiny dribble?

It's a permanant application of minute doses, don't expect enough to lube a chain in one go.
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[mysterious_rider]

yeah but on PRIME mode it should come out relatively easily,
anyway they actually have a video for it, I did exactly what they said to no avail. Something is definitely wrong with my system.
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[barrkel]

In the priming mode, you need to apply positive pressure by squeezing a bottle (fairly hard), with the bottle attached to the breather tube, until you can see the dispensing tube fill with oil and start coming out the final drip nozzle. But it should never come out at more than a dribble - perhaps one drop a second.

For normal use, you dial it back until it's dropping in the region of once every 90 to 120 seconds.

The valve should never be in a condition where it's freely flowing oil through. At its most open (priming), it should still be very restricted.
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[stinkwheel]

Very little to go wrong on a scotoiler.

You do know all it does is open a small brass needle valve at the bottom when the diaphragm gets sucked open (the diaphragm is attached to the valve by a plastic rod). The oil runs out under gravity when the valve is open. The adjuster sets how far the valve can open.

If you can physically see the diaphragm move up when the engine runs, that bit's working. If oil isn't coming out, the valve is either not opening or is blocked.

Remember it needs to be facing downhill.

If the valve appears to be opening, it must be blocked/gummed up. I'd give it a damned good wash out with hot, soapy water and try again.
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[mysterious_rider]

well i managed to get it moving a bit with some cleaner. It still wont empty much mind, ill try the squeezy bottle again tomoz.

Would it be safe to remove the bottom needle and prod something up there to unstick the valve? It's movements are so tiny oil can't get past.. But it does move now!
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[Rtwo]

[stinkwheel]

Another possability is a punctured diaphragm. The top chamber above the diaphragm needs to be airtight or the engine can't suck the valve open properly.

I have dismantled a scotoiler before to raise the valve height to use thicker oil so it is do-able. Was a while ago now though so I can't remember the exact details. I suspect I just popped the top off.
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[mysterious_rider]

yeah its knackered, sending it back. I can manually make it leak but the diaphragm must be split. I ordered a new one.
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