Best all year round tyres?

[rideslikean00...]

Having had an off recently (any one you walk away from, eh...) I'm looking to start getting the best rubber available so I can ensure a decent level of grip even when the roads are a bit worse for wear compounded by bad weather. The motorway is boring and unless it's heinous weather I'd like to avoid it for my work commute if at all possible.

I hear good things about the Pilot Road series but really, tyres are a lot like guitar strings in the difference they can make and I just haven't tried enough of them to know what I'm looking for.
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[FriendlyEllis]

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=293376
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[rideslikean00...]

[Vracktal]

I use Road Attack 2s on my bike and they're good enough for me, handle leaning over fine and seem to wear well.
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[Nemo]

I use metzeler sportec m7rr, and so far they have been fantastic, loads more confidence in all weathers and haven't had the rear slip yet.
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[pinkyfloyd]

You have the same bike as me. The Bridgestone T30 seems to work well with the bike. I have them on mine and they are fantastic.

I have heard mixed reports about them of late, I think Paddy didn't get on with them but for the XJ6 they seem to work fine.
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[Rtwo]

It's all about confidence.

The stickiest tyres in the world would be useless unless they they gave you the confidence that they wouldn't fail you.
Unfortunately, so many things can influence the feel of the tyre it's almost impossible to narrow down for someone else.

[c_dug]

I tend to use Bridgestone tyres, I tried the T30 for one set, but went back to the 023, I've been buying 023's since they were new, riding in all weather day in day out and am more than happy with them.

I did once have a rental bandit 650 with Dunlop roadsmarts that felt really good, but didn't do enough miles to give a proper review.
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[chickenstrip]

Another for PR2s. I don't really look for anything else now as they've never disappointed me. I've heard mixed reviews of the PR3; better in the wet (which is saying something cos the 2s are excellent in the wet), but a bit of movement/squirming when pushed in the dry? Not heard anything bad about PR4s yet, but I'm a cheapskate so I'll wait till they're cheaper
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[rideslikean00...]

Really helpful stuff so far, it's looking like PR2s and BT-031/023s are the favourites. Thanks especially to The Tot, it's nice to know bikes with twice the power handle well with some of the popular tyres so a relatively modest bike like the Divvy could benefit a lot from them. I'll take any advantage I can get even if it costs a bit more - can't be sending my bikes down the road once a year, it'd get very expensive very quickly.

Out of interest what's the difference between the BT-021s and the other Bridgestone rubber mentioned? I had the 21s on as stock (old rubber; probably original to the bike which is an 09 plate) and they were alright but I wore through them pretty quickly.
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[The Tot]

BT-021 is old tech. Came out the same time as the BT014's and Pirelli Diablo stradas. On a 600, you'd still be getting 6k+ out of a rear on a 021. But 023 is a vast improvement - the fact that Ron Haslam uses them on his School bikes (600rr's and Fireblades) says a lot about their capabilities.

There's been a lot of advancements since the roll-out of the roadsmarts/PR2s, and they're all much of a muchness. Expect to get 6000 miles plus on any modern sports tourning tyres (well, that's my target for a thou - i usually replace when I square the rear off).

023s are being offered for quite decent value, fitted. Latest quote was £250 fitted for a set of 190/55s with 120/70s. Yours will be slightly cheaper if you have a 180 rear, and significantly cheaper if it's 160.
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[Pigeon]

PR4's

It's scary how much grip they have with zero warm up. I'm cornering at the same speed as usual, but not having to lean as much.
It's safe to say, the tyres and bike can corner ALOT faster than I want to / can.

Like them so much, I'm just about to order another set for the SV.

[kramdra]

PR3's were good, but lost all confidence in the front in cold weather when the tread got down to 2mm, swapped early after two events (one was ice, other poor obs). Currently got PR2's fitted, they do the job. Neither wear unevenly like I found dunlops to.

PR4's supposed to be harder, last longer, but works out more expensive per mile than 2's or 3's, whats the point if thats all they add?

However, what felt 100x better were the Pirreli Diablo Rosso 2's fitted on the 250RR. It might be the bike, but I DO like the different profile a lot. Tempted to get some for the CBR6 but there are probably much better options in the pirelli range for that (SC scrubs are cheap on ebay, sceptical how long they would last)

[Seb]

Roadsmarts and Pilot Road 3s get my money in recent years, I'll admit to not trying 023s (Primarily because 020s were awful in the wet and 021 fronts wore poorly). Not tried PR4s yet either mind..
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[rideslikean00...]

Nice one everyone, I'm gonna try my hand with the PR3s next weekend on the Fazer which I've decided to keep in place of the Divvy. Much nicer bike, have more confidence on it even in the wet with whatever model Maxxis tyres it came with on there.

Then after that if I don't like the PR3s I'll try some of the others.


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PR3's
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[BillyJ]

I've used both and the PR4's do last a bit longer in my experience, but they feel weird on my Bandit if you're not used to it, I think the profile is slightly different to the 3's
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[Supermoto_Fan]

Just fitted 3s to the SV, will report back
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