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Wonko The Sane
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 23 Feb 2015    Post subject: Pinlock issues - what've I done wrong? Reply with quote

Recently I took my pin lock out of my visor to give both a good clean.

I put it back in and couldn't work out why it's misting up until realised today that it's not touching the visor at the bottom.

I can push it up the visor so that it does touch and stay there, but then it's not touching at the top, when I pull the visor down the pin lock drops again and stats steaming up.

What've I done wrong when clipping the two together?
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 23 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 'pins' that hold the pinlock in place can be rotated with a small screwdriver or similar, they work like cams and adjust the pressure on the pinlock to provide a better seal.
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 23 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben90 wrote:
The 'pins' that hold the pinlock in place can be rotated with a small screwdriver or similar, they work like cams and adjust the pressure on the pinlock to provide a better seal.


This...get a flathead screwdriver, and be firm but steady....hard but careful. That's what she said

Good luck.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 23 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you take the visor off, lay it flat, and put the pinlock in, then let the visor back up again?
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 24 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once again re-iterate my oppinion that pinlocks are Emperors new clothes.

My first one got fucked-off within a couple of hours for rendering my visor impossible to see through on a dark, wet night by fogging up on the inside (of the insert, not between the insert and the visor) and creating starburst effects from oncoming headlights.

I recently gave them one last try, fitted one to my new lid.

All fine for the first go. 300 miles of mixed motorway and back roads. Minimal steaming. Overnight camp then off into town for some scran. Left my helmet on the seat of the bike.

Came back out to see my helmet steamed up between the pinlock and the visor. Closer inspection shows it has spontaneously buckled and deformed at the top corner. I can only assume because of the sunlight through the visor following frost (was a very sunny February day).

Another £25 down the fucking pan.

I might ratch it out of the map I stuffed it in and post some pictures if I can stand the sight of the fucking thing.
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 24 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Pinlock issues - what've I done wrong? Reply with quote

Wonko The Sane wrote:
Recently I took my pin lock out of my visor to give both a good clean.

I put it back in and couldn't work out why it's misting up until realised today that it's not touching the visor at the bottom.


Upside down?
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 24 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Did you take the visor off, lay it flat, and put the pinlock in, then let the visor back up again?


Pretty much, yes
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 24 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Pinlock issues - what've I done wrong? Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
Wonko The Sane wrote:
Recently I took my pin lock out of my visor to give both a good clean.

I put it back in and couldn't work out why it's misting up until realised today that it's not touching the visor at the bottom.


Upside down?


Won't fit upside down,


My pins won't turn and don't have a slot for a screwdriver to be able to turn them
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 24 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Pinlock issues - what've I done wrong? Reply with quote

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My pins won't turn and don't have a slot for a screwdriver to be able to turn them


Try needle-nose pliers - works for me. You are taking the insert out before adjusting the pins aren't you?

I have a slightly different problem with mine. If it is particularly cold (around 4C or below) and / or raining, it will steam up starting with a small spot under my right nostril. The steaming is on the inner surface of the insert, i.e. the side nearest my face, not in between the insert and the visor.

I've adjusted the pins every which way and it makes no difference, so I've come to the conclusion that it just has limits and won't work properly if it's really cold or wet. I'm working on a prototype heated visor as an alternative for those days.

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PostPosted: 15:04 - 24 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Pinlock issues - what've I done wrong? Reply with quote

SteveSmith wrote:

I've adjusted the pins every which way and it makes no difference, so I've come to the conclusion that it just has limits and won't work properly if it's really cold or wet. I'm working on a prototype heated visor as an alternative for those days.

Steve.


You can buy them, they're just not Uk road legal.

They use them for snowmobiles. HJC even make a retro-fit kit.

All you need to do is get someone to ship you one from the US/Canada. (They call a visor a shield over there if you're searching for one).
https://www.denniskirk.com/hjc/clear-electric-shield-for-hjc-helmets.p323139.prd/
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 24 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Pinlock issues - what've I done wrong? Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
You can buy them, they're just not Uk road legal.


Yes, but with a spare visor (which I've got anyway) and £20 of bits from Maplin I reckon I can make my own, which I know will fit onto my helmet.

Can you you point me to any reference that says they're not legal though? I hadn't heard about that, and it could bugger up my cunning plan slightly.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: 17:08 - 24 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Pinlock issues - what've I done wrong? Reply with quote

SteveSmith wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
You can buy them, they're just not Uk road legal.


Yes, but with a spare visor (which I've got anyway) and £20 of bits from Maplin I reckon I can make my own, which I know will fit onto my helmet.

Can you you point me to any reference that says they're not legal though? I hadn't heard about that, and it could bugger up my cunning plan slightly.

Cheers,

Steve.


Oi, get your own thread!

:p

I'm guessing illegal in the same way an iridium visor or a heavily tinted visor is, no?
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 24 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Pinlock issues - what've I done wrong? Reply with quote

Wonko The Sane wrote:

I'm guessing illegal in the same way an iridium visor or a heavily tinted visor is, no?


Pretty much.

They either don't transmit sufficient light due to them usually being double-glazed and/or are not CE approved due to a low market demand for them.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 24 Feb 2015    Post subject: Re: Pinlock issues - what've I done wrong? Reply with quote

Wonko The Sane wrote:

Won't fit upside down,


My pins won't turn and don't have a slot for a screwdriver to be able to turn them


Then you have the pins that push out from the inside of the visor, out.
*Pull the insert out
*Note in which orientaltion the cams are, by looking for a discoloured circle on the outside of the pin
*Push the posts from the thinner post from inside of the visor
*Re-insert with the cam closer than it was by rotating it before pushing it in - should have a nice snug insert.

HTH
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 25 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trying pulling the visor apart i.e. flattening it to get he pinlock to seat properly, I've used pinlocks for years with few issues.
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 27 Feb 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have the pinlock insert rotated too far down. Lay the visor on a soft cloth, open it out and push the pinlock insert up. Was a big pain in the ass on my hjc fg-15, once I had the pinlock aligned, is open my vior in the rain and need to reset it. The newer pinlock max fittings with recesses in the visor work better. Never had an issue with the pinlock in my shark speed r.
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