Running in a new engine

[CVSensei]

Morning all,

Picking up my brand new MT-07 soon and trying to pick up some tips on running it in. This is my first time and I've heard so many different methods already but thought you guys might be able to share some insight.

It will be restricted down to be A2 compliant, will the fact that the engine is inhibited affect the running-in method? Will it have any problems once the engine is de-restricted?

Thanks in advance
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[Polarbear]

On all my new bikes I have run in as per manufacturers instructions and never had any issues.

I don't see the restriction having any effect on the running in.
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[CVSensei]

[MarJay]

Don't listen to any rubbish on the internet related to thrashing from cold. The rev limit is a guide, if you occasionally go over it you'll be OK. The trick is not to labour the engine or hold a set RPM for a long period of time. Do not ride around in sixth gear at walking pace!

Keep the engine spinning, and rev it to the redline every now and again. Which is basically what the manufacturer will tell you to do.
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[CVSensei]

Thanks MarJay that was exactly what I was after.. Although you say don't listen to the advice about gunning it cold?? That's one thing that made a lot of sense to me, is that BS?
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[MarJay]

[Rogerborg]

[Polarbear]

If we are talking modern motorbikes from the point of view of better machining, as in bikes from say the last 10 years, I have had 4 brand new. A Hayabusa, Street triple R, Tiger Explorer and a Trophy SE.

All have been run in pretty well as per manufacturers instructions. Non have burnt oil. The busa is the only I had dynoed at 153bhp so that's pretty standard for a mk1 busa as far as I know.

If what Mr Mototune says is true, why do the manufacturers, who have spent millions on R&D for their product, still come im with the running in schedules?
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[MarJay]

[Taught2BCauti...]

For a brand-new engine, my preference would be:
change the oil and filter at 300, 600, 1000 and 1500 miles,
using good quality oil and filters,
allow the engine to warm-up before riding off,
no harsh acceleration,
no heavy loading,
follow the service guide with regard to checking valve clearances, torque settings for cylinder head bolts, checking brakes, and changing anti-freeze.
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[CVSensei]

Great stuff, all kind of common sense really then ay! Cheers all
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[Carvel]

[Northern Monkey]

[chickenstrip]

I'm still not entirely convinced that you need deviate too far from the manufacturer's recommendations on running-in. I've had a brand new FZ750 that got caned from the word go (but not constantly) and it was fine. I had a brand new GSXR750 that I pretty much followed the manufacturer's guidelines on and had no problems. Is it really that critical for a non-competition bike?
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[Rogerborg]

[Acemastr]

Bought my R6 with 0 miles, within 20 I'd hit 14k RPM and never kept it at the same revs. Use the bike, some say a hard break in is good and I went with that, had the oil changed at 350 miles and all is dandy so far!
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[blueglue]

ive got an MT-07 and just ran it normal apart from no red lines.

Got it serviced at 1000 miles.

You may want to look up about these engines stalling a fair bit. Mine did it between 1000 and 1500 miles. weird but there you go.

It has about 3500k on it now and never stalls so just put it down part of the breaking in procedure....ish.

[blueglue]

https://www.motorcycle-talk.net/forum/mt-07-fz-07-technical-forum/160-engine-cuts-clutch-lever-pulled.html

[stevo as b4]

I'd never rag any engine hard until the oil not coolant has come up to temperature. Will probably take 6miles+ of gentle riding to get 80-90deg oil temps?

I don't worry too much about set running in procedures though. You can often feel an engine as it starts to loosen up after a while, wether that's 100 or 600miles etc.

I think different engines like different ways of being broken in. Remember the 2000mile running in interval for the ZX12R?

Small bikes and two strokes are often run in very quickly in terms of the mileage taken, as a hi-po two stroke can't afford a 1000mile+ running in period if the top end only has a 5000-6000mile service life before overhaul, as your using up too much engine life.

Some engine's will always burn oil even up to a litre or more per 1000miles, no matter how well they are run in. They just like oil, and so quoting oil consumption as an indication of how effective the running in process was is often pretty meaningless.

Once a motor is run in you can use it how you like, and I also don't worry about labouring a warmed up engine, such as my van engine etc.

Oh and those saying do hard and fast break-in's, well how are you going to do that on powerful bikes like say the S1000RR on the roads, and whilst staying within the legal speed limits? it cannot be done?

[Acemastr]

You have 3 options for break in

1: Do as the manufacturer says, slow and gentle.
2: Do as the internet says, hard and fast then change oil early on.
3: Ride it how you normally ride it, change the oil at 600miles.

I did a combination of 2 and 3, also helped by the fact the oil warms up much quicker here.
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[reed]

A good friend of mine bought a brand new MT-07 a couple months after they were first released, i gave him a lift to get it. On the way home he hit the redline through the gears within 2 roads of the bike garage, and gave a good go at a few wheelies. Although he doesn't really care about bike maintenance and traded it in after just over 2 weeks for a GSXR.
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[notbike]

I bought my ninja 300 brand new and I ran it in as per instructions. Till I had the first service I'd short shift at 6k to keep revs between 4-6k.

Not difficult to do when you ride in London traffic though every now and then I'd rev it past 8k but not often.

Then I had to keep it at around 7-8k on the motorway to get it's first service anyway.

No problems with it.

After first service, did 100mph on the way home which demanded a lot more revs than usual. Breaking my 100mph virginity feltgoodman.

[chickenstrip]

[Rogerborg]