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PostPosted: 11:18 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: At pace + Blind corner =........ Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11:24 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blimey, I'll bet his crimper was going a bit Laughing

He did well to avoid an off!
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

This happened to me quite a few times now. The worst ''blind corner surprise'' was when I found about 25-30 five-seven year olds and their ''teacher'' walking in the middle of nowhere, on the wrong side of the road. If there was a car or even a lorry going in the opposite direction, I'd have no where to go and quite frankly, I'd choose to run over the kids, rather than doing a head on collision at 55mph (the limit) with a lorry. Thumbs Down

70% of vehicles on that road are lorries, it's the main link between CZE and Slovakia, not even cyclists ride there.
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
The worst ''blind corner surprise'' was when I found about 25-30 five-seven year olds and their ''teacher'' walking in the middle of nowhere, on the wrong side of the road. .


Is there a 'right' side of the road, I always assumed it best to face oncoming traffic? (Although I must admit that I'll cross the road so that I can see oncoming traffic better - might be tricky playing that game with a group of kids though)
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

mentalboy wrote:
Is there a 'right' side of the road, I always assumed it best to face oncoming traffic?


That would be the 'correct' side of the road to walk on. According to the highway code anyway.
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coming round a 60mph bend and being confronted with an ambling horse is a real danger round my way.
Sure they crap all over the road (thanks for that by the way, how about a nosebag style thing on the other end?)
so good obs will get you thinking horses, but they do tend to be 2 abreast and under the 'control' of sometimes
very young children (Far too young to drive, or have much road sense) forcing you onto the other side of the road
to avoid them.
If there's a Corsa full of baseball capped neds coming the other way at 70+ (also a very real danger while they try
get around the lanes without slowing for anything whatsoever) then it's decision time.
'Do I ride into this horses arse or this car full of dicks?'

I think the horse would be the most surprised tbh. Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The comments in that video lol, it was all clearly the car drivers fault when nobody has any clue about why he had stopped! Nothing to do with the guys flying round blind corners at silly speeds then?? (facepalm)
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure I can't avoid that (whether on bike or car).
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

orangepeeleo wrote:
Nothing to do with the guys flying round blind corners at silly speeds then?? (facepalm)


What speed were they travelling at?
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

60-70?? Too fast to be going round multiple completely blind corners imo

EDIT: How fast do you think they were going??
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

orangepeeleo wrote:
60-70?? Too fast to be going round multiple completely blind corners imo

EDIT: How fast do you think they were going??


I'm not going to guess, I dont have enough info to base it on.

I would say they were riding/driving within their limits, albeit at speed, because they both successfully avoided the hazard.
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

orangepeeleo wrote:
blind corners at silly speeds then?? (facepalm)


orangepeeleo wrote:
60-70??


You've never been on a BCF ride, have you.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

DoovyRR wrote:
orangepeeleo wrote:
blind corners at silly speeds then?? (facepalm)


orangepeeleo wrote:
60-70??


You've never been on a BCF ride, have you.


Haha, no! Smile

Yes they avoided it....just, was it sensible to be getting their knee's down round corners like that (wider road with a longer corner that you can see around, crack on!) on a public road, probably not.
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

orangepeeleo wrote:
Yes they avoided it....just, was it sensible to be getting their knee's down round corners like that (wider road with a longer corner that you can see around, crack on!) on a public road, probably not.

Clearly it was sensible... they didn't crash.

You really need to head out into the country and ride some decent "biker roads".

Riding on quiet roads is totally different to riding in town.


But we can look at this in a bit more detail.

The camera on the Atom is lower than the rider's eye level and closer to the inside of the corner.

The biker obviously had more than enough time to see the car, judge it's speed (or total lack of), and initiate the hazard avoidance of a lifetime.

Also, the biker would have seen the car waaay before the camera sees it.

I guesstimate the biker sees the parked car here.
https://i.imgur.com/wYwG9Qq.png

The parked car comes into view for the camera here, but only after the driver sees it.
https://i.imgur.com/PvF9h9y.png
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cansa is completely correct!
Bike and rider avoided a collision, therefore riding at the correct speed!

The comments from the YooToobers, who haven't realised the camera is on a car and not a bike, say it all really.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suntan Sid wrote:
Cansa is completely correct!

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PostPosted: 18:37 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:
Coming round a 60mph bend and being confronted with an ambling horse is a real danger round my way.
Sure they crap all over the road (thanks for that by the way, how about a nosebag style thing on the other end?)



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PostPosted: 18:38 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 18:44 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just think the rider was lucky.
The parked car clearly took him by surprise which in my view makes his road positioning slightly wrong, I don't think speed was the issue.
Being a tad closer near the center line would have given him a better view with a bit more time to avoid with a bit more control which in turn would have made a possible head on with oncoming traffic more avoidable.

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PostPosted: 18:49 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avoiding a collision != driving at a suitable speed, I seen a video of 2 guys hooning down a motorway the other day, crossing over all the lanes and in-between cars, they avoided collisions somehow but it doesn't mean what they were doing wasn't retarded.

He goes fully over onto the other side of the road, which means there was a pretty large slice of luck with his skill.
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

recman wrote:

Being a tad closer near the center line would have given him a better view with a bit more time to avoid with a bit more control which in turn would have made a possible head on with oncoming traffic more avoidable.

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PostPosted: 18:50 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riding should have been further to the left, better view round the corner, more time to avoid the hazard.
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact he wasn't potatoed doesn't mean he was riding sensibly. I'm pretty sure you should be able to stop in the distance you can see, not "veer onto the wrong side of the road and hope nothing is coming the other way" in the distance you can see.

Still, he did well to avoid it at that speed. No harm done but expect he might go round the next one slower, once he's removed his undies from his intestines.
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the rider avoided it accidentally. I think he braked and stood the bike up, which took him around the car.

I have no idea what he was doing with his left foot. His positioning wasn't great, and he made a show of looking like he almost fell off earlier in the video.
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 10 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

mentalboy wrote:
RhynoCZ wrote:
The worst ''blind corner surprise'' was when I found about 25-30 five-seven year olds and their ''teacher'' walking in the middle of nowhere, on the wrong side of the road. .


Is there a 'right' side of the road, I always assumed it best to face oncoming traffic? (Although I must admit that I'll cross the road so that I can see oncoming traffic better - might be tricky playing that game with a group of kids though)


Those little lads and lasses couldn't even see me coming. So, they were all over the place. Lucky them I was/am a good rider and there was no oncoming traffic.

I found a video of the place, this is where they surprised me (the left corner in the video), I was going in the opposite direction on my CB-1. https://youtu.be/jQfUwsO9wQ8?t=45s

Before you go mental, I was not speeding there, I went below 90 kph (the limit).
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