DVLA - Untaxed while abroad

[rehmh05]

Hi guy.

I went on holiday to Asia in July last year. My initial trip was planned for a month. However, due to unforeseen circumstances, I had to stay there till December (almost 5 months) whilst I was away, my bike was kept off road and it was taxes till end of October.

Upon my return, I was welcomed with a huge pile of letters, one of which was DVLA - failure to tax. And a late licence penalty. I appealed to them and even sent a v991 with my Tickets for travelling, but they said we couldn't find any evidence to support withdrawal of LLP and you have already been given opportunity to provide mitigation.

I understand I must tax my vehicle or declare SORN , however, I forgot my number plate, didn't have details or anything to tax or SORN online or over the phone, now they are threatening me with debt collectors .

Any further correspondence with regards will be placed on file without reply- is what they say now.

Is there a way out, as I don't have job at present.

Thanks for any help in advance
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[monkeybiker]

They is c@nts and wont listen to reason.

[cheeseman]

What did they mean by this:

[rehmh05]

[fozzym]

Presumably if you don't pay it will go to court at which point you can give your mitigation to a magistrate or judge.

You could pay up and take it to the small claims court and again let a judge decide whether you have been hard done by.

Basically the dvla are saying that they have taken into account your mitigation and don't think it cuts the mustard so you must pay.

[rehmh05]

[fozzym]

Not sure whether there is a system to let you pay in instalments. But at the end of the day you can either fight it to the end or pay now.

It's a bastard but without sounding harsh it is your own fault and without knowing the reason why you ended up overseas for longer than you expected I can't judge the extent of which it is your own fault.

[rehmh05]

[cheeseman]

Not sure what you've admitted to to the DVLA but there may be some information here that might be of use to you:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/03/dvla_court/
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[rehmh05]

[monkeybiker]

[cheeseman]

[rehmh05]

[andyscooter]

As shit as it is it is easier to pay the bribe

They don't care that you couldn't remember your reg

If it was you that was injured you may of had a chance but the way it stands again you could of got someone to check reg or get you phone number for dvla

As said its shit but easier to sort and just move on
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[Rogerborg]

Well, you were a mug to get in touch with them because the purpose of their "appeals" process is to trick you into admitting to the offence. Which you've done.

But here we are.

DVLA assert that the "late licensing penalty" is a "debt due to the crown", which is different from their usual "pay or we prosecute" blackmail demands.

However, they do tacitly admit that they actually have to go via the County (or Sheriff) courts to get an enforceable order, so if you insist on continuing to respond to them or their goons (and I sadly suspect that you will), then I'd strongly suggest that you contain yourself to asserting that "No debt exists", while starting down the complaints track of both the DVLA and the goons, stating that you have no recourse to an independent tribunal as guaranteed by Article 6 of the ECHR.

For extra laughs, point out that their refusal to communicate any further is a flagrant violation of the Practice Directions for Pre-Action Conduct, Section 1, part 1, 1.1 (1) [to] "enable parties to settle the issue between them without the need to start proceedings (that is, a court claim);". It's quite literally the first thing in the list.

Bonus brownie points can be earned by asserting that you are willing to use an independent Alternative Dispute Resolution process, and ask why they haven't chosen to offer this.

See:

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/appeal_of_continuous_registratio

You'll get more specific help on PePiPoo or general consumer forums.
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