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Wave2k
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PostPosted: 02:43 - 18 Mar 2015    Post subject: Old fuel Reply with quote

Not specific to a bike, but does affect alot of you summer old riders so thought id ask.

Everywhere i search says something different, 2months 3months 6months, but i wanna hear if you have ever actually had any trouble after a winter of storage.
gummed up injectors or jerky or hesitant drive.

My Vette has been garaged since October last year, same tank of fuel and only been around the block a couple times as ive been away working.

Im hoping its ok when i head back to collect it, but wanna be prepared for any problems.
Now prevention would have been the best cure, however i didnt intend to be working away for that long and this winter has been another frozen tundra which is the vette doesnt deal too well with.

My first plan is to fill her up and hopefully at least dilute it, then perhaps run one of those fuel injector cleaners through it.
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PostPosted: 07:59 - 18 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I left a vehicle sat on the drive for over a year and it started again just fine. It was a rugged diesel Fourtrak though. Dunno if diesel or petrol is any different with being left for a while.

I'm pretty sure I've also found jerry cans of very old petrol and been fine using that too.

A quick internet search suggests most peoples' experiences are from leaving their engine less than a year and it was always still fine.

Being garaged since October is what, 6 months? Personally I'd just get in and get it started.
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PostPosted: 08:49 - 18 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've left a bike for 4/5 months, started fine without issue.

Personally, I'd top up then drive it as is.
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 18 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either store it with a drained tank or a full one and always use the higher octane if leaving it full.

Full tanks don't suffer condensation contamination so much and the higher octane fuel doesn't degrade as fast.
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 18 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

UncleBFester wrote:
higher octane fuel doesn't degrade as fast.


Sauce?


I'd guess at ethanol content having more of an effect on stability than octane rating.
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PostPosted: 09:45 - 18 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

UncleBFester wrote:
higher octane fuel doesn't degrade as fast.

Because?
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 18 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
UncleBFester wrote:
higher octane fuel doesn't degrade as fast.

Because?


Internet myth says so - therefore it must be right.

That said, I *thought* that the quality of fuel degrades over time, so putting more of the better stuff in to begin with *should* mean you have better stuff left after a time in storage.

https://www.jawaczownersclub.co.uk/technical_advice13.htm

Interesting reading
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 18 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

old CBR600 F3 (Carbed) was in the garage for 3-4 months with a nearly full tank...
Pulled her out the other day, just finished the tank, no problems Smile

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PostPosted: 10:25 - 18 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be surprised if there wee any problems for at least a year with petrol.
Diesel is now a good percentage bio-diesel and there were a lot of scares about fungal growth as inhibitors breakdown over a few months.
Storage conditions are a factor, large temperature changes and dampness the main thing.
Petrol is probably going to lose more volatility over summer than winter.
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 18 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Chinese 125, left standing for a year (or slightly more). Fired up after a few kicks, wouldn't idle but it would run ok. Quick carb clean and fresh fuel and it was running as good as it ever did.
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 18 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the greatest risk is the non-volatile mess that's left behind when it evaporates gumming up injectors etc. Leaving it with a full tank might be better for preventing this and should definitely reduce condensation damage.
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 18 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My experience is thusly:

When I bought my Thundercat it had been MoTed 12 months previously, ridden into a garage and switched off. I turn up 12 months later and the thing very nearly fired and ran, but the battery wasn't up to it. A quick charge and it started and ran perfectly, and has done for 13 years since. I have balanced the carbs but never had them apart.

It also tends to get laid up over winter, with periods of, maybe, 3-4 months sometimes between starts. It always goes on the prod of the button and runs cleanly.

My lawnmower is also similarly neglected and always fires up on the 2nd (or, rarely, the third) pull after the winter. Other engines as well: leaf blower, strimmer.
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 18 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never had a problem leaving a motor 3or4 months over the winter, bike lawnmower ect.
I've heard it said to either drain or fill the tank though I've never bothered with that.
With the mower I always run it with fuel off till it dies so there is only fuel in the tank not the system. You can do that with a bike if it has a fuel tap.

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PostPosted: 14:25 - 18 Mar 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

fozzym wrote:
Never had a problem leaving a motor 3or4 months over the winter, bike lawnmower ect.
I've heard it said to either drain or fill the tank though I've never bothered with that.
With the mower I always run it with fuel off till it dies so there is only fuel in the tank not the system. You can do that with a bike if it has a fuel tap.

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I think most have a vacuum operated tap - I guess it should be easy to disconnect the vacuum pipe and run until it cuts out to achieve the same.
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