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PostPosted: 14:53 - 04 Apr 2015    Post subject: Tories - BCF will be blocked unless age controls are added Reply with quote

BCF will be blocked unless they introduce age controls, Tories say

Sajid Javid, the culture secretary, says that the Tories will introduce new controls to stop children viewing pornography on the internet

Pornographic websites will be blocked unless they implement proper age controls to protect children under a future Conservative government, the Culture Secretary has said.
Sajid Javid said that pornographic websites should be subject to the same level of age verification as DVDs sold by high street retailers. He said that as a father of four young children he worries about “how easy it is for them to view explicit material” and the damage it could do.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/child-protection/11514914/Porn-websites-will-be-blocked-unless-they-introduce-age-controls-Tories-say.html

I'm sure it'll be as successful as blocking torrent sites is although it'll be annoying that the URL we'll have to use to access BCF will change every time the proxy sites get blocked. Razz
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 04 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's about time the youth of today had some barriers between them and decent porn. Back in the 90s, we had to make do with either late night telly on mute so your parents didn't hear (red shoe diaries, eurotrash etc) or else occasionally you'd find a damp copy of razzle in the woods. That was it.

Kids today have it far too easy. They should be made to work for it if they want it.
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 04 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

will never work

I've had an Irate American woman threaten to sue me because little Jonny used her Credit Card to buy cannabis seeds from our site
jonny turned out to be 15 but Mummy had given him access to her card and security code

no way you can verify 100% anyones age oneline Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 04 Apr 2015    Post subject: Re: Tories - BCF will be blocked unless age controls are add Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
BCF will be blocked unless they introduce age controls, Tories say

Sajid Javid, the culture secretary, says that the Tories will introduce new controls to stop children viewing pornography on the internet

Pornographic websites will be blocked unless they implement proper age controls to protect children under a future Conservative government, the Culture Secretary has said.
Sajid Javid said that pornographic websites should be subject to the same level of age verification as DVDs sold by high street retailers. He said that as a father of four young children he worries about “how easy it is for them to view explicit material” and the damage it could do.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/child-protection/11514914/Porn-websites-will-be-blocked-unless-they-introduce-age-controls-Tories-say.html

I'm sure it'll be as successful as blocking torrent sites is although it'll be annoying that the URL we'll have to use to access BCF will change every time the proxy sites get blocked. Razz


Yeah... this will work...
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 04 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will only work if the porn sites play ball. If they don't and the government try to block them, slippery slope to censorship which is the plan anyway.
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 04 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poseidon wrote:
It's about time the youth of today had some barriers between them and decent porn. Back in the 90s, we had to make do with either late night telly on mute so your parents didn't hear (red shoe diaries, eurotrash etc) or else occasionally you'd find a damp copy of razzle in the woods. That was it.

Kids today have it far too easy. They should be made to work for it if they want it.


Trying to get that balance between the mattress squeaking, the headboard hitting the wall and having the volume up *just* enough to hear the grunting on late night channel 5.

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PostPosted: 19:33 - 04 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of us had to do with the Gratton catalogue or squint at photos in the holiday brochures. Even the tampon instruction manual got you gong in those days.
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 04 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

BUNCH OF FASCISTS
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 04 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
BUNCH OF FASCISTS


Narrow it down a bit. All the buggers who want to be in power are wanting to dictate something to someone against their will and get them to pay for it.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 04 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

That, pretty much. Zanu will be falling over themselves to pander to Mumsnet. Never mind selective blocking, we'll just bring in whitelist! But not in a racialist way.


Ste wrote:
as a father of four young children

That he's admitting to. Waiting on half a dozen wrong-side-of-the-sheet bastards to come out of the woodwork if this nonce's profile gets any higher.
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 04 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm the father of four young children and I demand my right to view pornography unfettered by regulation....

So thats a father of four on each side of the argument, next one wins....
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PostPosted: 04:40 - 05 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

hang on, just one second here. done pretty much all modern computing systems come with parental control? heck BT even asked me if I needed parental control on my net connection, so there are at least 2 layers of "protection" there. if the parents are unable to control what the kid is doing then maybe they are unfit parents and the child should be removed for the custody.

Also fyi, I use nab porno from the paper shop back in the 90s
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PostPosted: 07:17 - 05 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

orac wrote:
hang on, just one second here. done pretty much all modern computing systems come with parental control? heck BT even asked me if I needed parental control on my net connection, so there are at least 2 layers of "protection" there. if the parents are unable to control what the kid is doing then maybe they are unfit parents and the child should be removed for the custody.

Also fyi, I use nab porno from the paper shop back in the 90s

Yep, but that doesn't give them an excuse to impose more restrictions.
You know, because parents can't be arsed to watch their little kids, they just want to stick the min front of a PC / smartphone and leave them to it without having to worry or supervise them

Lazy cunts
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PostPosted: 07:30 - 05 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are you in favour of impressionable young children being exposed to Ste's personal collection?

Are you grooming them?

Is pretty much how any "debate" will go.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 05 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I don't see what's wrong with having tougher age restriction things on websites. No idea how they'll go about doing it, but the intentions are, as said, exactly the same as preventing kids from buying 15 or 18 rated movies.

Also I don't think the 'parents responsibility' argument holds much water. There are loads of rules, regulations and procedures in place to protect adults, where you could argue that we're quite capable of looking after ourselves if only we'd be more responsible. e.g. drink driving rules. "Oh we don't need a drink driving law, we just need the drinkers to be more responsible!"

Children are more vulnerable than adults, and you can't just say the parents are doing a bad job at policing their kids. Currently if I had children I think I'd pretty much have to accept that they'd be able to see some very dodgy content quite easily, unless I wanted to become Hitler-Dad and place ridiculous restrictions on them. It would just be shit for all involved. The easy way is for a sweeping change of general regulation. As I said, I don't know how it would necessarily be achieved, but I do agree with the overall idea.
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 05 Apr 2015    Post subject: Re: Tories - BCF will be blocked unless age controls are add Reply with quote

Ste wrote:

Sajid Javid said that pornographic websites should be subject to the same level of age verification as DVDs sold by high street retailers.


So that'll "none at all" then.

Anyway, how are they going to regulate the rest of the world? It'll be about as much use as the Violent Crime Reduction act, which means you can't buy an air gun online from a UK retailer, but you still can from anywhere else in the world.
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 05 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

up till they were 16 I did monitor my kids internet use and had restrictions I put in place
but it didn't stop my 14 year old son getting a copy of GTA with an 18 cert
no I didn't ban him playing it, its a f****g game
after they were 16 they had no restrictions or me looking over there shoulder

as to Porn both my sons had been staying in the red light district in Amsterdam since they were barely teenagers
if anything it helped there outlook on life, my oldest son went to work in Belgium in a tattoo shop when he was 17

if anything its up to parents to look out for there kids not the nanny state
if you want to have kids be responsible for them till they can be responsible for them self
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 05 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember trying to buy the xfiles on VHS in an air port when I was very young, must be <10

The guy said I couldn't as I wasn't old enough for the 15 and 18 rated ones but then was like fuck it it's only xfiles and let me have them

Loved that shit

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PostPosted: 09:48 - 06 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Why are you in favour of impressionable young children being exposed to Ste's personal collection?

Are you grooming them?

Is pretty much how any "debate" will go.

u wut m8? Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 06 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about we just solve this problem once and for all and ban anyone under 16/18* from the Internet.



*pick one.
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 06 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure there is a much bigger problem with grooming and the like on social media sites than damage done from someone watching porn.

n the end, any censorship is good for the government, they can just blur the edges and start sneaking in more and more controls.

If this sounds a bit 1984 ish, well it is. How many times do we say on here that people need to be responsible for their own actions, whereas the government don't want people to be responsible for their actions, they want the excuse to control the peoples actions.
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 06 Apr 2015    Post subject: Re: Tories - BCF will be blocked unless age controls are add Reply with quote

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Is no-one else getting onto this?
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 06 Apr 2015    Post subject: Re: Tories - BCF will be blocked unless age controls are add Reply with quote

I know right, but what to do about it?

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