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militantchewy
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 13 Apr 2015    Post subject: motorbikes4all review Reply with quote

Thumbs Down this company is trading with the attitude what the customer doesn't know wont hurt them, i have emails where they admit they supplied a bike with a squared off front tyre .. the bike also had loose head stem barrings, forks set at different heights and low brake pads that would need changing with a week of purchase

i would rather pay more than die because they want to save a few quid, the information they didn't provide on there 52 point check lead me to make a purchase that i wouldn't have done if i was informed of all the information

what do u get if u have loose / replaced headstem ,front out of shape tyre on a 3 year old bike = previous owner was a wheelie addict

what do you get doing to many wheelies = problems!!!

if you too have had an issue do as i have and report them to trading standards

dont trust me look on youtube
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 13 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You relied on their 52 point check and didn't check anything yourself?

More fool you.
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 13 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would wheelies lead to a square front tyre? They are more a symptom of driving up and down the motorway
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 13 Apr 2015    Post subject: Re: motorbikes4all review Reply with quote

militantchewy wrote:
forks set at different heights


How do you set the forks at different heights? That'd require quite a bit of effort - pics required Laughing

militantchewy wrote:
low brake pads that would need changing with a week of purchase


So if I bought the motorcycle, the pads would just decompose randomly on my driveway despite it not having been ridden? How low is low...brand new pads can have as little as 2.5mm on them from brand new. Pics of pads required, Make, model and year of motorcycle also required.

militantchewy wrote:
what do u get if u have loose / replaced headstem ,front out of shape tyre on a 3 year old bike = previous owner was a wheelie addict


You've not mentioned the steering stem being replaced, merely the headrace bearings...which it's entirely possible to knacker on a three year old bike what with all the potholes and speed bumps. As for the out of shape front tyre, how exactly do you think wheelies work? If you don't land them straight then the bike kinda...becomes scrap metal, therefore no oppertunity for the tyre to wear. Theres also various reports of Bridgestone tyres suffering funny wear patterns even under light commuting duties. All I read here, is that the bikes recently had its headrace bearings done, they've worn in a bit & it needs adjusting up again. Adjusting headrace bearings is a perfectly normal maintinance task.

Is this one of these things where you're going to join lots of forums to slag them off then dissapear again afterwards? By the sounds of things you're trying to make a massive deal over a set of headrace bearings that could do with a quick tweak. I'd be very interested to hear about what bike, and what sort of mileage it's got on it.
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 13 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheelies save front tyre use, you won't kill head bearings if you do them properly...

You didn't bother checking, I lol'd.
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 13 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am astonished - astonished - that an I Can Internets To Potato sounding outfit punted on some traded in hack with a less than entirely full disclosure of its foibles. Surely this is unprecedented in the annals of bike dealership history! Shocked

Matey-chum, never trust a dealer, and if you buy from a place that deals in 20+ year old bikes and Chinese fake-aways, you need to go in with your eyes wide open.
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militantchewy
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 13 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

1st point tyre had flat spot as in squared off flat not round
2nd yes I am old school if tell me what turns out to be a lie I won't forget
3rd I have email trail that proves he knew about faults but insisted it was in "excellent condition"
4th I picked up bike in a van didn't ride bike so was foolish to take his word
5th that's the whole point of my post to make sure anyone who buys a bike from them checks the bike, and if not an expert like most on here pay the AA or other company to inspect it

I have taken the bike to two different garages and both came to the same verdict, sloppy, shocking and dangerous

I paid a kawasaki dealer to repair for peice of mind and have submitted a court claim to reclaim my costs.. if I died because the tyre or handling was effected I wouldn't be here to listen to these smart arse comments would I?

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PostPosted: 23:16 - 13 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought the divvy from them.i thought there service was great.i was supposed to pick the bike up on a Thursday.but I had a phone call that day to say pick it up on the Saturday.the reason was it needed a new clutch cable new carb rubbers and fork seals doing..they wanted the bike in tip top condition beforei had it...3 yrs later not a single problem at all.
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Ste
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 13 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poor obs. Thumbs Down
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 13 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

militantchewy wrote:
i have emails where they admit they supplied a bike with a squared off front tyre

QFT.

militantchewy wrote:
1st point tyre had flat spot as in squared off flat not round

First change of story.

militantchewy wrote:
I have email trail that proves he knew about faults [plural]

Second change of story.

militantchewy wrote:
I picked up bike in a van didn't ride bike so was foolish to take his word

Yes. Yes, you were.

militantchewy wrote:
that's the whole point of my post to make sure anyone who buys a bike from them checks the bike

You seriously think this doesn't apply to any bike from any dealer? Laughing


militantchewy wrote:
I have taken the bike to two different garages and both came to the same verdict, sloppy, shocking and dangerous

Was the first verdict not shocking enough for you?


militantchewy wrote:
I paid a kawasaki dealer to repair for peice of mind

I can spot a pattern here.


militantchewy wrote:
have submitted a court claim to reclaim my costs

Good for you! That's the spirit! Which court, and when's the hearing? Got a copy of the filing docs?

I ask because tomorrow I'll be inviting motorbikes4all to visit this thread and exercise their right to reply.

Anyway, I'm sure you've been following the practice direction on pre-action conduct, including giving them an opportunity to resolve the problem, pay your invoice, respond to your notice before action, and settle via alternative dispute resolution.
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Ste
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 13 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
I ask because tomorrow I'll be inviting motorbikes4all to visit this thread and exercise their right to reply.

[00:23] <+Ste> bored
[00:23] <+Ste> therefore invited these people to join BCF
[00:23] <+Ste> https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=301844
[00:24] <+Ste> Please enter valid message. It can only contain a-z A-Z 0-9 - . , £ ( ) ? + & " ' !
[00:24] <+Ste> oh do fuck off
[00:28] <+BCF> militantchewy has joined Live Chat
[00:29] <+BCF> militantchewy has left Live Chat
[00:30] <+Ste> hahaha
[00:32] <@temeluchus> lololol
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 13 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
[00:24] <+Ste> Please enter valid message. It can only contain a-z A-Z 0-9 - . , £ ( ) ? + & " ' !

I know, right? Rolling Eyes

In the morning. Drooling
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Ste
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 14 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luckily they also provide their e-mail address.

Wink
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PostPosted: 00:18 - 14 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Luckily they also provide their e-mail address.
Wink

Ha, right at the top. Poor obs. Have you?
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militantchewy
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PostPosted: 08:57 - 14 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

im sorry but it seems to be forgotten that this is my opinion of the service i recieved nothing more nothing less, the fact is i have started small claims court to get the money back for the work that needed to be done

if i was told and giving the option to make an informed choice then i would respect that but i wasnt

the laws i think that have been broken have still to be proved but as i repeat that is my opinion ( reported to trading standards) sale of goods act 1979, the road traffic act 1988 section 75 and the consumer protection from unfair trading regulations 2008

i gave them the option to change the negative opinion i have of them they declined, i also informed them that i would feel obliged to tell people what i thought... i dont want motorbikes4all to reply i want people to get a proffesional opinion before commiting to buying then find out there is no proactive support

all dealerships fall under laws and regulations, have you heard of one only having the terms and condition listed on a website? (its not an online store, it has a showroom before someone comments ) and i didnt buy from the website it was an ebay add
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 14 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would any of the faults you have listed resulted in a failed MOT. Do you have documentary proof from a qualified MOT inspector that any of the faults you have listed would result in the bike not being in a road worthy condition?
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 14 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

militantchewy wrote:
im sorry but it seems to be forgotten that this is my opinion of the service i recieved nothing more nothing less

As you're entitled to do, and opinion isn't generally libellous.

However, they do enjoy a right of reply and we generally hear an interesting other side to the story on the occasions when the dealer chooses to present it.

militantchewy wrote:
i dont want motorbikes4all to reply

Oh, I'm sure of that.

I do sympathise, but you've walked into an e-pub and started ranting. We're not going to form a mob and fetch our torches and pitchforks.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 14 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
I do sympathise, but you've walked into an e-pub and started ranting. We're not going to form a mob and fetch our torches and pitchforks.


I think OP expected us to respond as:

"OMG us bikers are like a famuly and we shud stand side by side and shoulders and well all do a protest at there car park. Ride safe, shiney side up, god bless bikers. Cheers brother"
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 14 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still don't see how a squared off front tyre suggest wheelies?

It suggests they do a lot of straight line riding.
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 14 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

monkeybiker wrote:
I still don't see how a squared off front tyre suggest wheelies?

He apparently meant flat spotted, not squared.

Still, I'm sure the dealer admitted to both, and to Maddy, also looked like this.

https://www.silentera.com/video/img/frames/dangerAhead-madacy.jpg

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PostPosted: 12:53 - 14 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

snoosnoo wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
I do sympathise, but you've walked into an e-pub and started ranting. We're not going to form a mob and fetch our torches and pitchforks.


I think OP expected us to respond as:

"OMG us bikers are like a famuly and we shud stand side by side and shoulders and well all do a protest at there car park. Ride safe, shiney side up, god bless bikers. Cheers brother"


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PostPosted: 13:45 - 14 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Im certaily not shocked at the barage of replies on this subject, you've only to look at the state of the country to realise we can't make decisions and help each other and most importantly stick together. I'm an old school biker and appreciate some one informing me of a dealer that malpractices or any thing that's likely to help me with decision making, lets face it purchasing a bike in my opinion is a big deal. I would also welcome the said dealer to put forward his/her opinion of this situation. I believe it should have been resolved well before any kind of litigation was even mentioned. Lets suppose militantchewy didnt have a clue what to look for when he picked up the bike it hardly makes him a fool, I bet there are things most people have no idea about it certainly doen't make them idiots. I believe we should be more respectful to each other and offer intelligent advice. This is only to Iain 'the traffic cop' in my experience no real traffic cop would divulge that information as I have many friends who are 'black rats'
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 14 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

bubba49 wrote:
brotherhood


Joined just to say this?
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 14 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

bubba49 wrote:
This is only to Iain 'the traffic cop' in my experience no real traffic cop would divulge that information as I have many friends who are 'black rats'


bubba49 wrote:
I'm an old school biker


Yet still a L Plate Warrior Laughing
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