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PostPosted: 12:36 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: useful little features that not all bikes have Reply with quote

I have switched from a budget Kymco Pulsar to a slightly more expensive YBR250 that feels rather sturdier. But I must say there's a few small things that my Pulsar had which I kind of miss. First one is a clear window for the oil. It's really simpler than having to take out the dipstick to check oil levels. My Pulsar also had a centrestand, but am I correct that most bikes bigger than 125cc don't have it anyway (maybe it's too heavy to have a centrestand strong enough to hold up a big bike?). One last thing is a gear indicator light that shows which one is in use, though it's more useful for beginners (who are likelier to be on a Pulsar) and not the biggest deal for me. Do you think these things should be standard on all bikes?
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lap timer and top speed run... upon discover of this wonderous bit of kit on my Triumph, I now want it on all bikes.

Gear indicator too, handy as f.
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of big bikes do in fact have a centre stand, typically sports bikes don't. I don't personally like the idea of a gear indicator, even for beginners, what's important is where the engine is in its rev range at a given speed, not which number gear is engaged.
I actually prefer a dipstick since where I park there's no space to see the sight glass without using a mirror.
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heated grips.

Fairing.

Headlights that actually allow you to see in the fucking dark!
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer an oil level window to a dipstick, quicker to check, but only a marginal thing. Only problem with a level window is if you do a lot of short trips in winter and the oil emulsifies, it can sludge up the window so you can't see the level properly. And on my last bike, the window actually got badly stained so couldn't read the level at all.

Sports bikes tend not to have centre stands for reasons of weight saving and ground clearance. Centre stands can be and are fitted to large, heavy tourers with no problems.

I've never felt the need for a gear indicator light personally.

Fold-in/out bungee hooks ought to be used on more bikes.
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Ybr dash didn't have a clock showing the time of day.drove me mad.
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MY Fazer doesn't have tea/coffee making facilities Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love having hazard lights on the XJ600, such a novelty Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like having a gear indicator, never used a centre stand anyway so I don't miss not having that.

My gixer doesn't have a fuel gauge and I have to rely on the "undo the filler cap and give the tank a shake" method to see how much I have left. Not really that much bother but I would quite like to have something that gives me some kind of idea while I am on the move without having to stop and check myself.
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

On slightly newer ZZR600s than mine, they replaced one of the trip counters for a digital clock. I use both of my trip counters, one for distance since filling and one for chain maintenance.

My CG only had the Odo and I had to half remember when I filled it up.

I enjoy my centre stand for ease of chain lubing, removing back wheel etc. I have a fuel guage, not all bikes have them, it's alright but it says it's 3/4s full when in reality there's less than half so it just drops off a cliff - hence the trip counter.

I wish my seat was less slippery ...
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Thundercat has no clock, no fuel gauge and no hazard warning lights - all of these things are on the concurrent FZS600 model. I would like all of them and believe that if I replace the left-hand switchgear on mine for those from a Fazer or R6 of the period then I would at least gain the hazards. The clock is a useful feature of having a satnav mounted on the steering stem but there's no easy way to get a fuel gauge in it.

I'd also like a headlight that, y'know, lights ahead.
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Re: useful little features that not all bikes have Reply with quote

czakal wrote:
(maybe it's too heavy to have a centrestand strong enough to hold up a big bike?).


course in engineering?

srsly, trip meter, tank range, electronic suspension adjustment, hazards, thermometer (engine and ambient), never used the stopwatch/laptimer, tyre pressure sensors, heated grips......
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

A clock. Back in the day I would have to glue a watch to the dash.
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

waffles wrote:
My gixer doesn't have a fuel gauge and I have to rely on the "undo the filler cap and give the tank a shake" method to see how much I have left. Not really that much bother but I would quite like to have something that gives me some kind of idea while I am on the move without having to stop and check myself.


Fuel light.

Flashes when low, solid when you have a handful of miles left. From the 1000 I used, you get about 20 miles. Loads of time to find station-la-gogo juice
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Underseat storage. You could get a fair bit of useful stuff in the space under the seat on the CB500.
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might be getting a bit old here, but I always take off everything I do not need. In fact, if lads at MOT didn't want to see the ODO meter I wouldn't even have speedo. I know at what revs I go 50/90/130 kph at 6th gear. Razz

The only really great thing I've ever had and want on every single motorcycle is the center stand. I loved mine on the GPz, I used it even more often than the side stand, plus not only you could comfortably work with the rear wheel and chain, the GPz also didn't take that much of a space in the garage, when it was parked on the center stand. But, not every motorcycle can have one. Thumbs Down

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Center stands - Oh, yes please, if my ZXR had a center stand instead of the side stand, I'd be quite happy actually.

Gear indicator - I'm too old fashioned to have one of those on my 90's superbike, but if it was there from the factory, I wouldn't mind. I mean, I do not need it, yet sometimes I find my self trying to shift the 7th gear, when cruising. A simple light that would tell me, I'm already at the 6th gear would be nice. Gears no. 1-5 are pointless to be aware of, since the gear shifting is based on the engine's behaviour.

Dipstick vs. Glass - I had both and the glass is quicker and cleaner to read. Although, if you don't have a center stand (or paddock stand), or a mate that would hold your bike up right, the dipstick is more accurate and easier to read.
On some motorcycles, you can read the glass on your own without the center stand but, on my ZXR, for instance, to get correct measurements, you need a paddock stand or a mate, + a torch.
Or just buy a Honda, most of them don't eat oil. Razz

Fuel gauge - With or without it, I always put the tap to ON, then to RES and find a petrol station. As I understand it, some newer bikes don't have the RES option, so that'd be quite tricky.

Under seat storage - It is nice to have some space under the seat, I can now take snacks and water with me, when I'm riding all day. + Basic tools, that saved me or any other rider quite a few times.

ABS/TCS/Quick shifter... - Maybe someday, but, so far, I was doing quite well without those.
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpha-9 wrote:
I love having hazard lights on the XJ600, such a novelty Laughing


In your case I think it's more necessity than novelty Wink
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:

Fuel gauge - With or without it, I always put the tap to ON, then to RES and find a petrol station. As I understand it, some newer bikes don't have the RES option, so that'd be quite tricky.


heh, not even a tap!
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Underseat storage. You could get a fair bit of useful stuff in the space under the seat on the CB500.


Yep useful. I also like the passing light and main stand.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

waffles wrote:
My gixer doesn't have a fuel gauge and I have to rely on the "undo the filler cap and give the tank a shake" method to see how much I have left. Not really that much bother but I would quite like to have something that gives me some kind of idea while I am on the move without having to stop and check myself.


Reset the trip each time you fill up. You'll soon get a feel for how many miles it will do until it needs filling again. On my old Bandit it was about 150, so once I got past 130 I'd look for a petrol station.

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PostPosted: 14:48 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

fuel remaining trip, adjusts as bike is ridden so the harder you ride it the lower it estimates your remaining distance before filling, likewise if you get up on the motorway it goes up as you ride more efficiently, well handy when out for a blast in wales of a weekend
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

SteveSmith wrote:
Reset the trip each time you fill up.


Reminds me, trip counter would be nice, too.
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an older model ZZR with no fuel gauge (or tap). Just an utterly useless light that flashes at me anywhere between 1/2 and 1/3 full. I would like a fuel gauge (I know they are rarely accurate and you can watch the mileage but I want one).

and a clock, I don't need 2 trip meters.

and a pair of RPG7 mounted to fire forward and backward (not sure any bikes have these but I want).
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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