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PostPosted: 18:31 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Formation riding Reply with quote

So riding through Doncaster today and an elderly gentleman with a white moustache nearly the size and shape of the handlebars upon his sportster appears alongside at the lights and attempts to ride formation with me up to the point I lose him filtering past slow traffic on the a19.

What is proper etiquette here? Is this a request to nursemaid somebody through traffic? An offer of the same? A suggestion we form a rolling road block? Go find a greasy spoon for coffee, tales of the glory days and leather grandad demonstrating the fine art of fisting?

Most riders either respect my elbow room and follow at a sensible distance like any other road user, overtake sensibly, or blast past at silly speed, possibly on one wheel as some statement of disapproval of the cruisery abomination between my legs. This formation riding is new to me.
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Re: Formation riding Reply with quote

talkToTheHat wrote:
So riding through Doncaster today and an elderly gentleman with a white moustache nearly the size and shape of the handlebars upon his sportster appears alongside at the lights and attempts to ride formation with me up to the point I lose him filtering past slow traffic on the a19.

What is proper etiquette here? Is this a request to nursemaid somebody through traffic? An offer of the same? A suggestion we form a rolling road block? Go find a greasy spoon for coffee, tales of the glory days and leather grandad demonstrating the fine art of fisting?

Most riders either respect my elbow room and follow at a sensible distance like any other road user, overtake sensibly, or blast past at silly speed, possibly on one wheel as some statement of disapproval of the cruisery abomination between my legs. This formation riding is new to me.


As you were both on cruisers, maybe he was trying to pull you. Did the moustache constantly twitch?
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for he wanted to bum you.

I've only ever ridden solo, as such it unnerves me when other riders follow close.
It tends to make me mirror check so fast I get whiplash. Neutral
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Re: Formation riding Reply with quote

It sounds like he was challenging you to a race. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

you must do the beardy bmw closed fisty thing. FACT!
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Closed fisty thing? Laughing

Fist bump bro... fist bump!!!
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did he look like this?

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PostPosted: 19:27 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Closed fisty thing? Laughing

Fist bump bro... fist bump!!!


aye, a bit like the arm in the air slappy thing Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did someone say fisting?
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fisting? Why not stick a potato up Smilers arse rather than a fist?
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone seems to be insisting on shit like this, I slow down or even stop, to get the fuck rid of them.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Re: Formation riding Reply with quote

Maybe he was just being sociable and you were just being too cool for school because you think your cruiser is more legit and gangsta than his?

Or am I reading too little into this?
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this an aspect of cruiser riding that I need to know about now I have a sportster?
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Re: Formation riding Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
you were just being too cool for school racing

Thinking

Laughing

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PostPosted: 21:03 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 21:03 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I regularly ride up to the front and alongside a biker, if there's space. I will nod or smile and/or say hello, and when the lights change, I'll hang back a tad and let the other rider take off first, as I feel that is good etiquette. I have however, had similar happen to me - but that b4stard has tried taking off in front of me, and thus annoying me...as I was technically in front first. Mad

Overtake me fairly and squarely, but take me at the lights...ggrrrr !
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
Is this an aspect of cruiser riding that I need to know about now I have a sportster?


Apparently, cruiser riders take potatos up the dirt box
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clanger wrote:


Overtake me fairly and squarely, but take me at the lights...ggrrrr !
Fair game IMO. If I've left you enough room and you get to the front then warm yer clutch baby cos I'm going in dry (my bike has a dry clutch).
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

But... every set of traffic lights is a race.

If you've got pole position then you can't not race.

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PostPosted: 23:03 - 16 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Formation Riding?

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PostPosted: 00:12 - 17 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had some muppet do something similar on Sunday. I'm cruising along at 90 or so.. Squidly McBumfuck comes past doing 120 or so & slows to match my speed, but about 100 yards ahead. Then he spends the next 5 miles or so constantly looking back over his shoulder like he's expecting me to play with him.
Once he got bored of that & hadn't looked back for a while I blew past him at about 145 on the next straight bit between two overpasses where the cops usually hang out. Was kinda hoping he'd blast past me as I slowed to 80 & he went past the cops at warp factor stupid.. which he did, but the cops weren't there Sad
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PostPosted: 00:46 - 17 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:


I was thinking

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PostPosted: 07:58 - 17 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

or this

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PostPosted: 10:10 - 17 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:


after the talk of root veg, the guy on the front has more than a tuber up there, oh sir.
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 17 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fisting jokes aside, he probably was being sociable. By a set of rules I don't know. This troubles me as occasionally I do social and haven't gone too badly wrong navigating underground worlds of rock clubs, sex, drugs and dungeons and dragons.

I understand big bike aggressively guarding the space behind an apparently under confident rider on l-plates. There are hand signals that suggest speed cameras or otherwise police ahead that are well recognised. There are others that would seem to suggest the place with beverages is in the other direction (heading away from known bike night just as everyone else was descending on it).

But aside from nodding, which requires several humongous threads every spring, there is little discussion. I know HOG and suchlike are into big rides in tight formation with mysterious things like 2nd man drop off.

Its all well and good riding side by side through town with open moustache helmets and having a conversation over the thump of Harleys, but I had my earplugs in as I had every intention of getting my head down and miles covered as soon as the nsl board appeared.
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