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TomKenn
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 19 Apr 2015    Post subject: Tall new biker dilema Reply with quote

Hi there,

I am looking for a little advice/opinions on how i should get on two wheels. I completed my CBT last week and i have been looking at 125 bikes. Being 6'4 the only bike i have felt sort of comfortable on is a Varadero, but even on this bike my legs have been slightly cramped. I am 24 in July and have been thinking of just waiting and getting straight onto a larger bike after i have completed my DAS.

My question is do you think it would be worth me buying a 125 now for 3 months and getting some miles under me. Or just waiting till im 24 and doing a DAS course in July and getting a larger more comfortable bike.

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Tom
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 19 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Instant advice is "save all your money and put it towards a DAS course, once you've got that out the way save towards whatever bike you want to own and can afford to insure".

Although it depends on your needs, ie; do you need a bike as your only mode of transport asap.

Nothing wrong with getting a cheap little run around to get some road experience before taking out a more powerful bike on the roads as generally there's a whole lot more mistakes that can be made in control of a 125 and get away with it than the other way around.

Although.. if you weigh up the costs of a decent cheap 125, insurance and then the cost to either change the policy details and update the bike to your bigger one (when purchased) it would be cheaper to wait.

Whatever makes better financial sense (waiting sounds like the best personal choice) imo.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 19 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bigger bikes have bigger engines; they are still designed to be ridden by humans of the same proportions.. its not like cloths, and 125's are in the kiddie corner for smaller people waiting till they are bigger!

Bigger engine bikes generally cost more 'all in', and might have the capability to go faster, but the speed limits we should all abide by remain the same, and 125's can break most if not all of them.

So ultimately; its your money & your choice; but either way, ergonomics will still be an 'issue' if you are at the longer end of the 'normal distribution', no different to finding trousers long enough and T-shirts that reach your belt, without drowning you!

So don't 'kid' yourself you HAVE to have a 'big bike' just cos your a bigger fella!
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 19 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm over 6ft and I rode a CBR125, 2004 model. Tiny little bike. I had no issues riding it.

Hands down though, I would buy a Varadero over the CBR if I was to do it again. However, I picked up the CBR for £800, and the Varadero is a hefty chunk more.

Getting back on such a small bike after riding something larger for a year or so felt very strange. But still, I managed it.

My point is, just because a bike is small, doesn't mean that you can't ride it. Though if you have a busy life style and wouldn't ride it much, I'd just wait.
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 19 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm brand new to all this but having just completed my DAS, I'd definitely say I felt far more comfortable on the larger bikes - I'd love to comment on my Fazer600 but I don't get it for a few more days so can't reliably say it's much nicer (but im pretttttty sure it'll be brilliant!).

Being only 3 months away, I'd wait personally.

I'm 6ft4 Smile
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 19 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice guys. I do have a car and do not plan on selling it so it will mainly be a weekend toy or be used the odd nice day to commute to work which is a 60 mile round trip. I just want to be out on a bike now because of the nicer weather!
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 19 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

SectorC wrote:
I'm brand new to all this but having just completed my DAS, I'd definitely say I felt far more comfortable on the larger bikes - I'd love to comment on my Fazer600 but I don't get it for a few more days so can't reliably say it's much nicer (but im pretttttty sure it'll be brilliant!).

Being only 3 months away, I'd wait personally.

I'm 6ft4 Smile


Did you start from never being on two wheels before the DAS? also did you do an intensive course?

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NJD
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 19 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomKenn wrote:
I just want to be out on a bike now because of the nicer weather!


Don't get caught out.

The weather may look nicer from inside a car but there are the days where the sun is out and heavy crosswinds make the commute on my 125 anything but pleasant.

This time last week I was travelling down 30-40mph open exposed A roads and had the wind take my bike across the centre line on two occasions (and one was into on coming traffic).

Just be aware that if you chose a 125cc naked your basically going to end up with brown trousers at the end of the ride when first learning (as far as crosswinds are concerned).

Although as you only want to go out on the warmer days I'd say you wouldn't have to worry about it as much.
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 20 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was in the same boat a few years back.

6'8" of bigness and 38" leg, so limited choice.

Had my lad's DR125SM (supermoto thingy) and that was fine for me, varadero is among one of the bigger too.

Don't be fooled into thinking that you need to be the same or similar stance to a pushbike, with straight legs and nearly on tippytoes, this leaves you unstable when stopped.

feet flat with bent knees is better for stopped stability.

too low and obviously you'll feel odd and silly as well as being unstable the other way.

I ride my other lad's CBF125 for giggles and whilst id is a lot smaller that my V-Strom, it is still comfortable and stable enough to chuck around nicely.

I'd say (personally as there is no right or wrong answer to this), to wait and do your DAS then get a bigger bike.
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With a bigger engine, they need to have a bigger frame setup, so physically a bigger bike (not talking hugely huge things though) and also more choice due to not every biker wants a BMW, V-Strom, Tiger etc, but at one time we have all needed the 125, so tend to hold value better (IMHO)

My eldest has just done CBT and is on a cheapy Lexmoto 125 with plenty of leg extension for him (6"5')


Basically,if you are going to go 125 look for a bigger one (Supermoto style or jacked up) and try it out, but don't be put off by looking smaller looking ones, they can be deceptive.

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PostPosted: 13:04 - 20 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 6'5 and rode an RXS without much trouble for a year.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/chris-red/photo001.jpg

Didn't look that ridiculous Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 20 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:30 - 20 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
I'm 6'5 and rode an RXS without much trouble for a year.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/chris-red/photo001.jpg

Didn't look that ridiculous Laughing


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PostPosted: 19:42 - 21 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomKenn wrote:

Did you start from never being on two wheels before the DAS? also did you do an intensive course?


Yep. Aside from having ridden a mountainbike etc I was totally new to motorbikes. Took my CBT and then did the whole DAS course with the same training centre (Think 8 days total including CBT and both Mod1 and 2 tests). The instructors were great and well worth the money imo!

Edit: Oh and can now legitimately say the Fazer feels huge compared to everything else I've ridden (which was mainly the Gladius 650cc) so super happy for size.


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PostPosted: 20:09 - 21 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

only sensible suggestion I have is https://www.suzuki-vstrom.com/

someone I know @ 6ft+ and 20 stone rides a lot on one of these...
buys plenty tires though..
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 21 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well today I picked up a lovely honda cg125 2006 model with a genuine 1800 miles. I went to look at it expecting to hate it. It was in that great condition and cheap I just thought what the hell and bought it. It will give me a few months experience at least!
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PostPosted: 06:28 - 22 Apr 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huzzay. You're not going to lose anything on it, and any bike is better than no bike. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well after a few months of riding I have decided to book in for my direct access. I have mod 1 on Monday and if all goes well mod 2 on Friday!

I have now put the CG up for sale so that I have funds for my new back when I hopefully pass!
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 05 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

TomKenn wrote:
Well after a few months of riding I have decided to book in for my direct access. I have mod 1 on Monday and if all goes well mod 2 on Friday!

I have now put the CG up for sale so that I have funds for my new back when I hopefully pass!


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PostPosted: 00:03 - 06 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:16 - 06 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

April, oh my.. this thread makes me wonder where the time has gone Shocked

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PostPosted: 16:24 - 14 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just passed my mod 2. Get in!
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 14 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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