dt bord :0 soo the standerd 33bhp questions sorry

[evilbob]

gettig realy bord of having to rev the nuts of my poor dt125 to drive down duel carrage way to and from uni soo have been reading all the 33bhp post and thihnk i got the idea but just need to make sure

i am 20 been ryding dt for almost a year (destricted Fresco metal style)
Will take test
then

i can ride like any 400 - 600 suppoedly restricted to 33bhp and not get completly mullerd on the insurance??

even a damb sexy gsxr600????

[Phoenix]

You can ride any bike already under 33bhp (like Suzuki Goose/CB250) or anything over that has a restrictor available, most do, even a Thunderace etc.. Insurance companies don't offer any kind of reduction if a bike is restricted, they don't care...they only make sure you're legal on it. If you're 20 with 1yrs no claims you should be able to insure upto a 600 for a reasonable premium, 400s are more popular for restricting though.

Once you're 21 you can take accelerated access, which is another test to give u an unrestricted licence...or you can wait the extra year and your 33bhp restriction will lift at 22.

[evilbob]

So its just on what insurance group they are in then, that gsx is 14!!! ARARAR i think but a s640 still like 12.

Coul handle insurance around 1k+ but its just when people say what bike you got its soomuch cooler to say 600 than 400 and and hell of a lot cooler than saying 125 . Cos the next question is always, is it a moped ???

Is there any major reason why people seem to tend to get cbr's or is it just an avaliblitly and price thing?

[Phoenix]

CBRs...what 600s or Fireblades? In my experience most ppl who buy them are those that drive cars, decide to get a bike and go...ooh that looks nice and fast...i'll take one, stick it on the Visa!

Well yeah but I wouldnt pay an extra £200 insurance just to be able to say 600 instead of 400. SV650 is low group but its relatively new and the newer your bike the more expensive. A 400 for you would be well under £1000, I'd hazard a guess at around £500-600 for a '92-94 ZXR400. Something like a 1996 ZX-6R would probably be over £900. 600 sports tourers are relatively cheap to insure like the ZZR-600 or RF600.

[WildGoose]

loads of 400's about at the moment as well

generally you can find a nice example 400 for a lot less than an equivalent 600

plus, why insure power than you wont be able to use?

hence why i went for a 250, although having not had a geared bike before, i thought it would be better for me than a 400

it arrives tomorrow, erm, well later today /me looks at clock 3:07AM
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[G]

How long 'till you are 21? How many years NCB... I'd say go with the 600, even if you are actually going to restrict it.
Just because it should take a while longer before you get bored of it.

Though if the only reason is because it sonds better when you tell people what bike you've got.... them you might as well get a 1200 bandit or something (should be cheaper to insure than a new 600 sports bike)

There's plenty of other bikes you can consider sv650, fazer etc, etc, that all have cheaper insurance and still have a bit more umph than a 400.

[TiN]

I would agree with G...go for a 600, but not a sports 600...something like a Bandit, Fazer, Raptor, SV, or maybe a CB500 (not a Hornet6, they're in the same insurancce group as sports 600s).

They should all be cheaper to buy/maintain/insure than an import sports 400, or any modern sports 600.
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[G]

err... I though the hornet was 11 or 12... while sports 6s are 14/15

[TiN]

The last time I looked, the Hornet was group 14, which was one of the factors going against it...they may have changed it recently, but it was an issue in most of the reviews that I had read...
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[Ropehead]

if u like your Dt your could hop straigt on to a DR350 or a Drz400 Nice cheap insurance as they are group 7 ish... with 2 years NCB it should be about £300 TPTF

[TiN]

Yeah, the DR(Z)s are nice, but if I were to sell a bike that does 60-70mph, I'd want to buy a bike that would do more than 82mph (the DRs only do about 82mph, and has 42 horses)

I think a sub-400 trailie/crosser would be cool as a second bike, but not a main bike.

It's kinda difficult to make "appropriate" suggestions unless you give us more info, like how much you have to spend, your height, your main use of the bike etc...
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[G]

Something like the klr650 is quite good.... nu9, not much more power than a smaller one, a bit more weight. But the power's alot more usuable and it's a fair bit more comfortable for longer journeys.

Oh yeah.. I'm sure the hornet isn't nu14.

[TiN]

[evilbob]

LOVE my dt to bits and if i didnt have to drive down duel carrage ways all the time,

Can get 80mph plus another 1000 revs in 6th gear mate (^70 cheek)
But that is absolutly flat balls out and involes a slight down hill greadient to get from powerband in 5th to 6th.

Yer was originally looking at a CR250 MX 2stroker as i a bit mud inclined and very often go offroading but with the Motorcross back tyre i got on my bike it make it just S**t scary riding in weather like this especialy with randum power spread over the revs.

1 year no clames
im 20 just
Student but got the moneything sorted
recon i could blow 4k on the bike and 1k on insurance if i was to real want to (invole a bit of not eating for a few months) lol

[TiN]

Aren't motocrossers good for the wet? ...I dunno why, but I was always under the impression that moto-x/trailie/supermoto were good rain bikes
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[evilbob]

We dont know about other ones but i got a proper offroad tyre and if it even the slightest bit wet then going across man hole covers when completly upright the bike still twitches and if you accelrate even the slightest in the wet in 1st 2nd then the back start to come out

got to go to uni now and its still raining

(ow and about it staying restricted, well i would be for about a month i guess untill i thought i would be sensable and got the hang of this 4stroke bigger bike change)

[Ropehead]

The dr 350 is a GREAT engine if u like u could gear it for road use and it will do 110mph(like my goose)

Pleanty of bottom and grunt sounds Meaty too,been around for ages so it has been well developed just needs regular oil changes and its SUPER SMOOTH..

im looking for one at the Mo for winter:-)

[TiN]

The engine must be tuned for the Goose, Rope...'cos all of the literature says that top speed of the DR350 is around 82mph

As I said though, I ain't knocking the bike, but I'm simply saying that I wouldn't want it as an only bike...
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[MaRTiN]

Also a 2 stroke motorcrooss bike needs to have the petrol and oil pre-mixed before putting it in the tank so getting a 2 stroke crosser for the road is a bad idea. Another option is a Yamaha XT600, i have 1 and it is great fun on and off road + insurance for it and my ZXR400 is £730 tpft with 1 yrs no claims!!
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[Ropehead]

[G]

It should be able to accelerate harder at low speed, because there's chance of the front coming up.

[evilbob]

Just looking in mcn and sore that a CB500 is only insurance group 7??? is that realy rigth my dt is group 6 and the tzr (on road version of my bike ish) is group 7. Quotes it as being like 52 bhp or something cant be that bad and what with it only costing me £250 for my dt's 1st year for insurance it would be well cheep with 1 years ncb??? But cant find any for sale in mcn newspaper

(still want a GXS-R

On another point theres a Gsx-f at uni and well no offence but my bike looks better!!!! and it had huge fuel valve thing on the side it was like 3 cm diameter??? they think this looks good??

[G]

The CB probably will be a bit more as not many places use nu groups and some add a 'weighting' to them I believe.
The cb's not gonna have great handling in comparison to say a bandit, and you'll get board of it a lot quicker. However it would be an ideal winter bike and can be hussled if you're dedicated

The GSX-F is know as the 'Tea pot' and should never be considered within sight of a GSXR-R

[matt123]

[G]

I've seen quite a few KLR650s and never had a problem getting parts when I had one.

They were officially imported into the UK for over 10 years (over 15 I think!) Never sold that well though.