Is this right/legal??

[LazzurusMan]

So I found this:https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lexmoto-XTR-125CC-big-bore-150cc-learner-legal-registered-as-125cc-very-fast-/251944315565?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3aa90d2aad

And was wondering if this is at all legal fro new riders, as it claims, as I've had my 125 stolen and if I can't get it back this seems like a pretty good replacement for the price.

[Llama-Farmer]

It's "legal" because as far as the paperwork is concerned, it is still a 125cc bike.


It's been modified (engine capacity increased) so DVLA "needs" to be informed. And insurance company would also need to be.

It would no longer be legal for a CBT L-plate rider.




BUT, you could less-than-legally ride it and for the most part, DVLA would be none the wiser.
I wouldn't want to get caught on it though, punishment probably outweighs the benefit, after all, its not going to be that much faster than a 125 anyway.
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[LazzurusMan]

Thought so, think I'll stick with looking at a second hand YZF or YBF in this case!

[Rogerborg]

It's legal in the politician's sense of "Anything you can get away with". Might as well get a Hyosung GT125 and shoehorn a 250 or conceivably a 500 into it.

Item reported for the lulz, not that eBay give a stuff any more.
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[Triton Thrasher]

[bamt]

Ignoring the 150 aspect, the owner claims to have done the "invisible" servicing aspects - oil change, spark plug etc., yet hasn't bothered to fit the two indicators which will have taken him longer to describe than to actually sort out (assuming that they are the right ones to fit the bike, and the electrics actually work).

In itself, that'd be a big red flag to me about the general way that the bike is being looked after and "serviced".

[Andy_Pagin]

If it's registered as a 125 it's not road legal.
Definitely not learner legal.
Insure it as a 125 and you're guilty of fraudulently obtaining insurance.
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[RhynoCZ]

It is illegal, in terms of the paperwork, but the VIN on the engine says 125 and there's no way anyone could ever tell, just looking at the cylinder, that it's got 150cc.

The worst case scenario is a copper with mobile DYNO, checking the power output and finding out, it's a bit more powerful than it should be. OR you could cause a major crash and they would take the engine, for some reason, apart.
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[DRZ4Hunned]

To be honest it'd be highly unlikely you'd get caught and in the rare occasion that you do get stopped for a roadside dyno test, just rip apart the wiring so it wont start.
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[Teflon-Mike]

[Rogerborg]

[arry]

[RhynoCZ]

We do not have L plates here, but the first 2 categories of motorcycle licenses are also limited by displacement.

AM (15 years old) - 50cc, max. of 45kph
A1 (16 years old) - 125cc, max. of 11kw

When on MOT, the technician checks the VIN on the engine and the type of the engine must correspond with the motorcycle itself.

I know it sound stupid but an example would be a ZX7R, there's xxxZX750xxxxxxxxx on the frame, and there's also ZX750 on the engine. That is how the technician can tell, if you've got the right engine in the frame. And a few years back, the paperwork had mandatory VIN for the frame and for the engine. Now it's just the frame VIN, because some smart people in the gov. understood, that older bikes eat engines a lot, so it'd be stupid to have to do all the extra paper work when ever you change the crank case. But still if I put a ZX9R engine into my ZX7R, there's no way I'd get MOT (legally).

Yes, we do get people on A1 licence with 160cc, or whatever children can buy these days, kits on their 125cc motorcycles.
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[XBIKER]

Front brake lever snapped, broken screen, no indicators, really scabby looking clocks, scratched panels and the chain looks slack.

Did these have a kickstart rubber?

[Polarbear]

£549 for that

To quote a nice tennis chappy 'You cannot be serious'
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[Rogerborg]

[arry]

I'm guessing he's not had it long

[RhynoCZ]

[arry]

[Rogerborg]

[anthony_r6]

Due its first MOT this year, and he's saying only the indicators would cause it an issue - yet hasn't put it through its MOT? IF I was planning to buy it, I'd want him to put it through the MOT first, and then I'd want to see the advisories and such.
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[Rogerborg]

Well, sure. He's clearly full of it.

So's half of Gumtree though: "bike will have a full year's MOT put on after sale", over and over.

Jog on. I'm not interested in buying based on what may or may not happen in the future.
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[Llama-Farmer]

[stevo as b4]

TM I'm not so sure I agree with missing out some of the 'very fast tuned innit' from such a sales ad. But yes I do agree that the way these ads are often worded or written does equate to skint kid with mega race bike fastest in 3towns because he won every race etc, would make you run a mile generally.

But, the key thing is (target audience). If you know who is the most likely kind of buyer to go for a specific type of machine, you can often get massively more interest from this maybe small section of buyers than you would from the general appeal to everyone marketing would.

It does not matter if it's a 50cc scooter, a Subaru Impreza, a 4x4 etc, if you target a specific kind of buyer, you can sometimes (not always) get a huge amount of interest from this smaller percentage of would be buyers.

Id did no harm with Iain's 75mph Chinqy Ped making the ad appeal to a certain type of buyer, and when I sold my old speedfight 100, I also wrote in the ad, Tuned engine very fast! I might have got less calls from Pensioners wanting a shopping scooter, or Barry the Brickie looking for a ride to work hack etc, but I still had loads of calls from the type of buyer I was expecting to hear from.

I'm not saying it always works, but there is something to be said sometimes for targeted marketing.