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PostPosted: 00:56 - 18 May 2015    Post subject: Motorway riding Reply with quote

Riding a bike for a year or so. Crossrunner 800
The onlyntimes I've been on a motorway it was passing with rain and I keen to get off couldn't see and wind...
It's not the speed or the noise its the time if that makes sense....I seem to seize and find itnhard to look in the mirrors etc....can do it on a 50mph at speeds...so there must be a way
The wind is a ballox as I'm sat upright....
Don't want to look like a twat and drop behind the screen or maybe I should?
No one I know rides bikes and all think I'm off mybtrolley...
Keen to sort this as I want to go travelling
Thoughts or experiences welcome
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PostPosted: 08:17 - 18 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use Rain-X or similar on your visor.

Dress for the weather.

If you've got one of the small screens, fit an extended touring screen on your high speed touring bike.

Then drink a nice big hot cup of MTFU and get on with it. You're not going to get over it on a forum.
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 18 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

honestly didn't understand much of what you wrote Confused

...but going on from what Rogerborg said, I'm assuming you're trying to get some protection from wind/rain?

Agree, rain-x is the way to go to ensure your visor stays clear of rain and muck build up. Also there's nothing wrong with tucking in behind the screen at speed. Any long journey at speed will fatigue you more than you realise and will eventually affect concentration imo.
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 18 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would suggest:

Wait until it's a clear day and then go on the motorway. The only way you'll get comfortable is to get out there. Sit in the inside lane, if you go the speed of the lorries (56mph) you won't be a danger to anyone.

Get a feel for the windblast doing shoulder checks and whatnot.
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 18 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

RainX is only for glass. It weakens plastic. Clean you visor. Use Nixwax visor proof or a cloth with a little bit of mr sheen on it to help water bead off. Turning you head helps rain come off.

Do you have an adventure helmet with a big peak on it? Lose that for motorways. Wear earplugs if you don't already. Windnoise at motorway cruising speed is deafening.

If i can do this sat upright on a cruiser that is pretty much flat out if I'm keeping up with the traffic in the outside lane, a jacked up VFR should be no problem.

Are you getting too close to the vehicles in front? Yes car drivers turn busy motorways into a 90mph tailgate snake and the inside lanes are nose to tail with HGVs at 60ish. Preserving a decent gap ahead of you is an arse as other vehices will try to fill it.

Get pinlock and or a foggy mask if you are steaming up inside. Adjust mirrors so you can see behind with minimum amount of motion. Get a riderscan wide angle mirror if you think it might help. Use rainX on your glass mirrors.
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 18 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

talkToTheHat wrote:
RainX is only for glass. It weakens plastic.

And yet, my visors haven't disintegrated or gone milky.

Go on, tell me about what'll happen when a pigeon hits one.
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 18 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raincoat works really well on visors. Water beads and and rolls away.
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 18 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wax your visor, I use a carnuba based detailing spray to keep my lid clean and protected, safe for polycarbonate
because plastic headlight and safe for glass fibre because boat. Dead bugs don't stick so much either.
As a water repellent for glass I prefer Aquapel but that shit will mess polycarbonate right up.
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 18 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always used Rain-X... like 4eva. Never had any issues, infact my 5k mile old visor looks as new with Rain-X being applied at least twice a week, and almost every day over the winter months.

The key to applying any anti-water/fog coating is to apply to a pre-cleaned visor so you don't end up rubbing in the road grime, essentially sanding your visor.
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 18 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go faster and occasionally move head from side to side - the wind blast will blow away drops.

Get a glove with an integrated wiper, or buy a wiper slip-on - e.g. https://www.getgeared.co.uk/bob-heath-finger-glove-rain-visor-wiper-black . Be aware that in winter especially, wiping will occasionally scratch your visor a bit from grit thrown up by cars ahead. I replace my visor yearly.

Learn to read the shapeless blobs up ahead. Stay in your lane, keep safe distance from the guy in front of you, be aware of what's coming up behind. With experience you get more information from fewer cues.

Make sure your helmet fits properly. If your viewport is being visibly shifted around when you try and look beside you, it's not tight enough. Some helmets have better aerodynamics at speed.
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 18 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

RainX is fine, used it for years and never had a spontaneous visor implosion/fireball.
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 18 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, quite. Rain-X or similar. Alternative juju is available. I've used furniture polish when there's nothing better to hand.

Anyway, OP's problem is a bad experience leading to an excess of foggitry. Go out on a nice day, don't die, repeat.
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 18 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheArchitect wrote:
Always used Rain-X... like 4eva. Never had any issues, infact my 5k mile old visor looks as new with Rain-X being applied at least twice a week, and almost every day over the winter months.


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Rain-X is unaffected by normal screen washing. Abrasion by wiper blades and trapped grime will gradually reduce performance and durability. Depending on the amount of driving and how often the wiper blades are used, Rain-X can last from 2-3 weeks to several months before a new application is necessary.


Even better Thumbs Up

Get this

Apply and forget. Used it for a couple of years. Keeps visor clear as the rain beads off. As well as protects from scratches.
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 18 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. I take it one 'packet' of that magic goop will do a whole visor?

Also, I wonder if it would have any mystical anti-fogging properties for inside the visor? Hmm.
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 18 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:


Even better Thumbs Up

Get this

Apply and forget. Used it for a couple of years. Keeps visor clear as the rain beads off. As well as protects from scratches.


What surface area does that application cover - enough to do one visor both sides? Two visors?

I might buy a new visor for my crash helmet and get a packet of that gloop if it's as good as you say.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 18 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

talkToTheHat wrote:
Turning you head helps rain come off the visor.


^^^ This and a swift wipe with index finger on left hand. All much much much cheaper than a product. In actual fact, FREE. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 20 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

MTFU isnt that helpful
Break it down
You're inexperienced in riding a bike on motorways and the wind and rain on your first try added to the anxiety.
Visor apart
I'd start by taking some planned motorway rides on fine days to get used to it and build confidence.
Then go when it's windy ( its always windy, yer on a bike remember) then when it rainy too
then when its a dark and stormy night.

Give your self room and remember 70 mph is just over 100 feet per second so don't snuggle up to anything
and use the eyes in the back of your head to stay clear of trouble.
Passing trucks in a side wind can do awful things to your underpants if your not prepared,so try to stay alert but relaxed
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PostPosted: 08:35 - 21 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

what helped my confidence the first time i went on motorway (literally after picking up the bike having not ridden on my own, ever) was to go faster than the speed limit for a little while.. Hit 90 or 100, then slow back down to the limit - 70 sudden felt like a comfortable speed compared to hammering it. Don't stay at 60 imo.. cars catch up, lorries catch up, fuck, even caravans will catch up and all of a sudden you're in a situation you don't want to be in. Cars/busses, caravans tend not to give a shit about cutting you up after overtaking.. even on the motorway.

I stayed at 60 like a nervous noob for a few miles and it felt absolutely terrifying. I hit 100 for a couple of minutes, over took a few cars etc and all of a sudden it was not so scary, even in high wind.

Just my 2p.
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