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PostPosted: 19:12 - 27 May 2015    Post subject: Austerity protest in Liverpool city centre - Minor Chaos. Reply with quote

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/live-austerity-protest-liverpool-city-9342499

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PostPosted: 20:16 - 27 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the opposite of Austerity. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 27 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did word get out that the DWP would be there taking names?
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 27 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feed the poor, tuppence a slag. Tuppence, tuppence, tuppence a slag.
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 28 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were any of them starving?
It is probably more than 200 yards between a pub and McDonalds on some sections of the march.

If they want to experience limited services they should try living in rural North Yorks and see how spoon fed they are.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 28 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:


Are people really daft enough to think the treasury has an infinite supply of cash?


I don't think it's too much of an assumption that these folks are net recipients rather that contributors to the public purse.
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 28 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
doggone wrote:
What's the opposite of Austerity. Rolling Eyes


If Austerity is trying to live within your means, then maybe extravagance?

I reckon that profligacy is more fitting.
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 28 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
What's the opposite of Austerity. Rolling Eyes

Socialism.
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 28 May 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
What's the opposite of Austerity.



As a word, probably "Profligacy"
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 02 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry folks have a good laugh now, you can pay for the effects of the so called austerity measures later. Anyone thinks austerity is a free lunch then they're an idiot. Of course when it comes to paying the bill the architects' of austerity will have all fucked off to nice overpaid retirement in a tax haven somewhere.
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 07 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
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Don't worry folks have a good laugh now, you can pay for the effects of the so called austerity measures later. Anyone thinks austerity is a free lunch then they're an idiot. Of course when it comes to paying the bill the architects' of austerity will have all fucked off to nice overpaid retirement in a tax haven somewhere.


I though austerity meant trying to live within your means? I didn't realise it meant increasing spending.


No austerity means not spending money now on things you don't give a shit about then living in the delusion its not going to cost anything to fix things back up in the future.
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 07 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
King Rat wrote:
Don't worry folks have a good laugh now, you can pay for the effects of the so called austerity measures later. Anyone thinks austerity is a free lunch then they're an idiot. Of course when it comes to paying the bill the architects' of austerity will have all fucked off to nice overpaid retirement in a tax haven somewhere.


I though austerity meant trying to live within your means? I didn't realise it meant increasing spending.


Nope

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The condition of living without unnecessary things and without comfort, with limited money or goods, or a practice, habit, or experience that is typical of this:
The wartime austerity of my early years prepared me for later hardships.


There is a difference between living within your means and living without un-necessary things and without comfort.

Austerity as a policy promoted by the Tories is not 'living within our means', it is ensuring the poorest in our society are not 'living in comfort'. You can be assured the richest in society wont be in the least bit affected..
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 07 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:

But there are plenty of long term benefits recipients in our country who still seem to afford Sky TV, mobile phones, fags and booze. Are they not luxury items then? Surely we're not in austerity until those living off the state can only afford the necessary things required to exist?

We live in a country where the only people who can afford large families are either very wealthy or those who are apparently the poorest and expect the state to provide them a living. The balance is still wrong when some families are financially better off on state hand outs, than others who have to work for a living. State benefits should be a stop gap, a temporary helping hand, not a lifestyle choice.


Yup, Sky boxes that don't work because the owners cant actually afford it (they maybe thought they could after reading the daily mail which is convinced the dole is around £25k per annum), mobile phones they cant use but which they also owe money on, dodgy black market fags made out of Bulgarian tractor tyres and cheap booze. Yeah they're living like kings.

Yes there is a working poor but not because there's a workless poor. Its because businesses are more geared towards having big dividends for wealthy workers pension plans. Because during boom years governments were too cowardly to make sure all workers pay reflected gains in the overall economy. Of course its easier to blame some untidy underclass than look a bit deeper into the problem.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 07 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:

Just as it is that the current government are still do nothing about tax avoidence...and they did nothing over the last five years...

They are also aren't doing anything about people legally claiming benefits, or driving sensibly under the speed limit.
Disgusting, if you ask me!

Tax evasion, which is illegal, they may or may not be doing enough about.

As ever - no one has provided any evidence that how much money the people at the top have (lets remember WE are the top 10% in the world as far as income goes) actually changes the lives of the people at the bottom.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 07 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I can see even on basic benefits you should get paid enough for 'the basics', nevermind a working couple.
But then it depends what you consider 'basic' - is it having an £800 phone and expensive entertainment subscription, or having a standard of life that would have been incredibly enviable in the 70s?

In our 'global economy' in many situations it's a case of a company being here and paying 0 business tax themselves, but employing people that do, paying business rates and generally bringing money in to the country... or doing it in Luxemburg.
Have you checked to see how much tax ebay.co.uk pays in the UK?
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 07 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0f/Citizen_smith.jpg

Taxing the genuine creation of wealth is a perverse disincentive. At best, it's a necessary evil, justified only when (and if) it pays for meritorious public works.

Taxation is not intended to be a punishment for success.
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