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Fisty
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PostPosted: 08:27 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Counterpart (the paper bit) of your driving license RIP! Reply with quote

As of today it is no longer useful.......

But, how long before this turns into a doooovla cock up?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32916968
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doubt it will be problematic. The paper part has been pretty redundant for many years. I've never shown mine since I passed my test.
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

DVLA Overlord wrote:
motorists could also save their driving records as a PDF file, which they could store on a mobile device.

Or even better, print it off and store it with your photocard.

https://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44279000/jpg/_44279618_fastshowbrilliant270.jpg
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
DVLA Overlord wrote:
motorists could also save their driving records as a PDF file, which they could store on a mobile device.

Or even better, print it off and store it with your photocard.

https://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44279000/jpg/_44279618_fastshowbrilliant270.jpg


Excellent idea Mr Borg. When I print it off do I give my £20 to you?
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aff wrote:
Excellent idea Mr Borg. When I print it off do I give my £20 to you?

I'm afraid it's gone up to £30. I'd show you on this EULA that you implicitly agreed to, but first you need to guess the access code. For your convenience.
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Viewdrivingrecord site appears to be FUBAR right now Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

but but...

I only have a green paper licence without a photo Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm hiring yet another van tomorrow. Do I just need my plastic bit then? How will they know I've got no points since I last had the van (5 days ago!)? More to the point, and not wanting to appear tight, but will I end up stumping up more for whatever check they need to do to prove I'm still licenced then?
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay no more panicking trying to find the POS, who on earth can ever find it anyway!
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

1198 wrote:
I'm hiring yet another van tomorrow. Do I just need my plastic bit then? How will they know I've got no points since I last had the van (5 days ago!)? More to the point, and not wanting to appear tight, but will I end up stumping up more for whatever check they need to do to prove I'm still licenced then?


You should go to the viewdrivingrecord site (when it works) and generate a code, after putting all your details in.

Give this to the hire company so they can check (possibly when the site is working).

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PostPosted: 10:30 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a man on the news representing the van/car hire companies who told us we may now be asked to print off the online page with a code on it to present when we arrive.

So DVLA have got rid of a paper form, which will now require printing of paper each time we hire a van? Another electronic resource for DVLA to balls up while we still post V5s off.
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

1198 wrote:
I'm hiring yet another van tomorrow. Do I just need my plastic bit then? How will they know I've got no points since I last had the van (5 days ago!)? More to the point, and not wanting to appear tight, but will I end up stumping up more for whatever check they need to do to prove I'm still licenced then?

https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence

You'll need your driving license and NI numbers.

Generate an access code which you give to the rental people. They can then look up your record online

Both of which require the site to actually be working.

Or do what Derek DVLA said and (if you can ever get in to the site) save / print off a PDF of your online records, thereby completely obviating the point of the service.
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

This seems to have been quietly ushered in. Were I not to have read this thread I'd be non the wiser. What'd happen if I hadn't, and turned up tomorrow clutching bits of card AND plastic? What happens when I need a van as last time and it was spur of the moment, and I couldn't get to a computer and printer?
What a pointless bloody faff.
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why the hell do they never advertise changes like this properly in advance? 99% of the hassle this will cause will be purely down to people not knowing about it.
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just spoke to the hire company by phone. As I'm a semi-regular punter at present (unfortunately), I 'just need to bring myself', as my details are still on file. If I was to put it in my mates name, as a new customer he'd need exactly the same as I did on my first hire, namely both parts of my licence and a credit / debit card in his name. Fair enough, thats more than reasonable.
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Why the hell do they never advertise changes like this properly in advance?

What, you don't subscribe to the DfT / DVLA newsletters and read all their blogs on a daily basis? Shocked
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried the gov site 3 times and it's never once brought back my details - not impressed
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's already a cock up! I'm also hiring a van tomorrow...

So went to the site to get my code and despite entering details 100% correctly I get the following message:

"It has not been possible to display/match your driving licence.
For further information regarding your driving licence details contact DVLA by telephone
0300 083 0013
Monday to Friday 8.00am to 7.00pm
Saturday 8.00am to 2.00pm"

So I phoned the number, guess what? Yep a recorded message stating that the phonelines are down for planned maintenance until 9:30 this evening, a superb service once again from the DVLA... guess it's lucky I didn't destroy my paper counterpart then Smile
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

1198 wrote:
This seems to have been quietly ushered in. Were I not to have read this thread I'd be non the wiser. What'd happen if I hadn't, and turned up tomorrow clutching bits of card AND plastic? What happens when I need a van as last time and it was spur of the moment, and I couldn't get to a computer and printer?
What a pointless bloody faff.


It's been news for the best part of a year. You dont need to print anything, and if you can't get online there is a phone number you/hire company can call.
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiring a car in Orlando next week so this should be megalols...
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously today on BCF is the first place & time I've heard about it. Considering that this is supposed to save millions surely it wouldn't have broken the bank for them to write to licence holders and tell them they're completely chaning the way their system works?
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Seriously today on BCF is the first place & time I've heard about it. Considering that this is supposed to save millions surely it wouldn't have broken the bank for them to write to licence holders and tell them they're completely chaning the way their system works?


They sent me a survey by email last week, saying 'did you know' effectively - which was nice as a) why didn't they email the consultation doc rather than a done deed feedback survey and b) I didn't give them permission to email me their spam

I've just tried to check my licence details on the site. With no success. SURPRISINGLY!

I am concerned about them screwing up endorsements and entitlements online as at least with a paper licence issued and valid you could argue the toss
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they sent everyone who drives a letter it would cost them about 57 million quid in stamps Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyscooter wrote:
If they sent everyone who drives a letter it would cost them about 57 million quid in stamps Laughing


Of course. Because they don't write to every vehicle owner at least once a year now do they...

They're just shit at comms - if they have absolutely no idea how to get a message out there in the cheap then should we trust them with such important data etc? It's hardly the best display of competency
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 08 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
They're just shit

Truth.

Given how long they keep things in 'beta' there's no good reason for them to fall over every time they go live - the same happened when they got shot of tax discs.

Next up will be assigning a VRM (license plate) online and... oh, praise Hannigan yes... change of keeper.
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