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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/17/death-mediterranean-africans-migrant-sea-libya
One thing we probably do agree on Ed is that I believe anyone moving to live in another country should make an effort to assimilate and attempt to adopt that country's culture and traditions.....rather than set up what become "colonies".
Another thing, is that the first to leave a sinking ship are quite often the rats. When corrupt countries collapse, the first to get out are those with money. Sadly, "those with money" aren't always the nicest types. ____________________ Space Is Deep |
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Vincent wrote: | We're talking about political refugees here, not Euro work-migrants. |
The fugees that "migrate" all through Europe, never once asking for asylum, then pitch their tents in Calais and get in the queue for the ride to Treasure Island?
If it's so Allah-awful in Assfuckistan, why aren't they settling in the first European nation that they wash up in?
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They should try a different tack. Perhaps hide amongst the raw materials and natural resources which western companies take from their countries, whilst they help to keep president Mbackhanda in power.
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Or...send those fleeing back........ but in better boats, trained and armed to the teeth ____________________ Space Is Deep |
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Vincent wrote: | Ed Case wrote: | I don't know quite what these people are expecting when they get into Europe |
"These people" are, in the most cases, escaping extreme violence and wish for nothing more than to find a safe haven for themselves and, what's left of, their families. Most will be waiting until their own country stabalises to a position where they can return home. As you say, who in their right mind would want to live here? They probably look to countries like ours for help as they consider us compasionate and civilised unlike some of the barbarians that are trying to wipe them from the face of the earth.
We're talking about political refugees here, not Euro work-migrants. |
In which case, once they have reached a "safe haven", why do they cross several other "safe havens" to queue up un Calais for their turn to illegally enter the UK? ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Why aren't we sinking the boats before they set sail, that's what the powers that be were mouthing off about.
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They aren't refugees, they are resettling migrants. A refugee goes home. They will never be going home, they've moving into your home. Don't forget to thank Mr Cameron and Mr Bliar for their good work, after all, you voted for this and they're doing what you asked for |
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Saw a news article tonight about how the Australian Government has dealt with it.
They intercept and redirect the boats as they have paid Papua New Guinea to take them
and re settle them there. They have a huge detention camp from where they will proceed no further,
that will be their final destination. Funnily enough the attempts to enter Australia this way have almost
completely ceased. Somehow word has got back to the 'fleeing masses' that this will be the fate of
all future attempts and as such it's a 1 way trip to prison of sorts. Hardly anyone tries anymore.
So they are scared for their lives but not quite that scared. Also in an flabbergasting double cross, the Aussie
Govt are also paying the traffickers. So first the traffickers take the migrants money to let them on the
boat then stitch them up and take them back to shore again anyway to collect from the Australians.
https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/06/12/australia-paid-have-migrants-taken-away-ri-crew.html
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-33110575
The Australian PM said places in Europe could learn a thing or two from them about how to handle the
problem. A 'pay once to be rid of 'em forever' approach has been taken,as opposed to the 'let 'em in
and keep paying forever' approach. He has a point, however Australia is lucky that it is surrounded by
countries that are already overcrowded by people who for some bizarre reason seem to insist on breeding
in numbers that their means can't support and so subsequently these countries need the money.
I'm sure they said on the news that PNG was paid 200 million dollars to shoulder the burden. Very shrewd
move, because let's call a spade a spade, it is a burden. A massive expensive one. With health, housing and
education provision already creaking at the seams here in the UK, whatever we end up doing with them is
going to cost a bomb isn't it? But surely if word gets back that the Aussies aren't playing ball then it
would also get back if we were to pull the plug on the free money healthcare, housing and education on
offer in good old soft touch Blighty. But for reasons I don't fully understand we are reluctant to do this.
But who could we pay to take them (who actually would want half a million plus with no modern world skills, and no
means of self support?) There must be some reason nobody wants to settle a huge amount of Muslims in
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grr666 wrote: |
But who could we pay to take them (who actually would want half a million plus with no modern world skills, and no
means of self support?) There must be some reason nobody wants to settle a huge amount of Muslims in
their country. Whatever could that be? |
Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and China. I'm serious.
While those countries have tight immigration rules. China is especially tightening up, the large number of white homeless. The I was a professor of English at happy giraffe English gay lucky go school in China types I see in Hong Kong these days is evidence of this). As they get wealthier the 3K jobs ( (きつい difficult, hard), kitanai (汚い dirty))
Or 3D jobs (dirty, dangerous and difficult jobs) in China spring up. India has the Dalit caste. Western nations have Mexicans and Eastern Europeans.
Japan in particular, Kozumi for instance introduced a work in Japan 'internship' program. There is NO possibility of citizenship whatsoever and individuals from all over Asia are invited to work in Japan for a 3 year period. Such individuals are effectively treated as slaves. Hong Kong has a similar 'domestic helper' system where individuals are paid almost nothing and are subject to truck acts (which mean anything they earn is eaten up by fees and charges). ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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