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weasley
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 23 Jun 2015    Post subject: To Windows 10 or not? Reply with quote

I recently received the Windows 10 upgrade app, through which I reserved a free copy of Windows 10 because, well, free stuff innit.

I am currently running Windows 7 Professional 64 bit on an old Dell Optiplex 760

- Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, 3 GHz
- Intel Q45 Express Chipset
- 128 GB SSD (OS and programs)
- 1TB HDD (file storage)
- 6 GB RAM
- DVD-ROM + DVD-RW

It doesn't have much software on it; nothing I can't find again. It connects by ethernet to the broadband router. I use it for casual browsing, e-mail, a bit of 'Word', some photographic manipulation and would like to do video editing at up to 1080p (I used to use Adobe Premiere Elements but lost this on an old PC and haven't got around to getting a new version).

The quick Win10 compatibility tester says everything is good to go. So, should I install it when it gets launched and downloaded?
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 23 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

wait for atleast 6months before upgrading.
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 23 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will Win10 free upgrade detect hookey Microsoft Office version that is installed on a computer owned by a no-fixed-abode prostitute that my dentist's best friend used to work with?
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 23 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't the beta version already out there, being used?
I did sign up for 10 via the app. If it gets on my tits or fails miserably for me, then I'll reinstall 7.
I usually grump over change.

Funny true story......
Windows 7 was the first legal version I ever owned. Me and the OH pre-ordered 2 copies before it was released (think it was being offered at half price too or something like that). Amazon sent us 2 each Smile So we ebayed the surplus and ended up with free Windows anyway.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 23 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will give it a go. Windows 7 is my first legit windows also. Was just an upgrade version, think I paid £30 for it, but extremely easy to do a fresh install just a registry tweak really. Surprised I was even offered a free upgrade to Windows 10 actually.
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 23 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Install virtual box, then you can create a virtual Windows 10 and have a play with it.
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 23 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Pagin wrote:
Install virtual box, then you can create a virtual Windows 10 and have a play with it.


Sounds good, must try that, cheers Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 23 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in the same place at the moment. I am no IT person.

Am I even likely to notice a difference?
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 23 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legit as in, you pay for it? Pfft. Might as well get a mac.
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PostPosted: 00:51 - 24 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vista was a mistake after XP

Win 7 made up for vista...

EVERYTHING AFTER 7 IS FAIL

Look at my video in my history.. this is EVERY windows after Win7
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PostPosted: 01:10 - 24 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Accuhaler wrote:
EVERYTHING AFTER 7 IS FAIL

Nopes.

W8 and W8.1 have some awesome things going on behinds the scenes.
It orks well, nice and stable, speedy, not a resource hog.

The GUI is a let down, but that's easily fixed with Classic Shell.
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PostPosted: 01:28 - 24 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Accuhaler wrote:
I live among idiots, it's clear now....

Where are the intelligent people?


Explain why W8 is terrible.
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PostPosted: 01:39 - 24 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Explain why W8 is terrible.


It's not on the right platform, IE tablets like it was designed for then it got moved over to PCs
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PostPosted: 01:40 - 24 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Accuhaler wrote:
CaNsA wrote:
Explain why W8 is terrible.


It's not on the right platform, IE tablets like it was designed for then it got moved over to PCs


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The GUI is a let down, but that's easily fixed with Classic Shell.
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PostPosted: 03:05 - 24 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Accuhaler wrote:
CaNsA wrote:
Explain why W8 is terrible.


It's not on the right platform, IE tablets like it was designed for then it got moved over to PCs


I agree with this. It was clearly designed for that stupid A4-paper-sized, can't-fit-in-your-pocket-but-you-take-it-everywhere-anyway, touchscreen tablet generation.

Sure it can have this classic shell thing added. But I think it ought to be good enough straight out of the box, as far as immediate usability is concerned.

EDIT: So is this what the Win10 start menu is going to look like?

https://thuthuat-vnzet.com/uploads/news/2014_10/610x341xchinh-start-menu-win-10-preview-giong-voi-win-7-1.jpg.pagespeed.ic.mPI_z9kAQ5.jpg

Seems they're still trying to combine desktop mouse-and-keyboard windows with touchscreen annoying windows.

So Windows 10 is just as bad then Laughing
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PostPosted: 03:17 - 24 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
I agree with this. It was clearly designed for that stupid A4-paper-sized, can't-fit-in-your-pocket-but-you-take-it-everywhere-anyway, touchscreen tablet generation.

Sure it can have this classic shell thing added. But I think it ought to be good enough straight out of the box, as far as immediate usability is concerned.


I said all this last year
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PostPosted: 03:18 - 24 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sticking with win7 because I don't need to upgrade. Only time I'll upgrade is when it becomes incompatible with programs I need to use. Not likely to happen any time soon. Also even if win7 is a resource hog, my rig has plenty of resources :')
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PostPosted: 03:33 - 24 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been using 10 development and had 1 crash. It's been stable as fuck and will be moving up straight away after its released. Only fault is that I'm not 100% sold on the start bar.
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PostPosted: 07:45 - 24 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried the W10 beta in January on my 8.1 laptop, no problems other than it refused to connect to wifi automatically from sleep.
This is annoying as you needed maybe three clicks then wait every time on and off through the day.
It doesn't go through your programs and block things you didn't pay for Silence

If the install is still the same it was just like one big (2GB+) update.
I decided to revert to 8.1 after a couple of weeks - this was also surprisingly easy rather like a system restore.

It's more like Windows 8 than Windows 7.
I find 8.1 quite good once you make some changes so it bots into normal desktop rather than the tiled thing.
However the metro tiles are only a glorified start menu.
You can delete and resize the tiles and put things there you want from time to time like Control Panel.
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 24 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried the beta and did see some mild performance increases, the whole layout will take time for people to get used to. All my work gear has been running windows 8 since it's beta, so the layout is more familiar to me now.

What I want to know is, If I upgrade to windows 10 from 7, what will happen when/if I reinstall windows.
Will I have a lifelong entitlement to a windows 10 install, or just the one after which I'll be stuck on windows 7.
Confused
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 24 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Accuhaler wrote:

I live among idiots, it's clear now....

Where are the intelligent people?


Rated as confusing. Can't think of anything else for it
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 24 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogue_Shadow wrote:
I tried the beta and did see some mild performance increases, the whole layout will take time for people to get used to. All my work gear has been running windows 8 since it's beta, so the layout is more familiar to me now.

What I want to know is, If I upgrade to windows 10 from 7, what will happen when/if I reinstall windows.
Will I have a lifelong entitlement to a windows 10 install, or just the one after which I'll be stuck on windows 7.
Confused


I'd imagine when you requested the upgrade your serial was sent to microsoft and they'll do whatever they need to do to make sure your serial key works on windows 10.

I really dislike in place upgrades, i'll be wiping my drives clean and then installing windows 10 from fresh, as it is so easy and quick to do these days.
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 23 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got win 8 on my new pc, lasted 1 day before it was wiped and back to 7, new laptop has 8.1 which is better, ive stuck with it, only because i can't fucken downgrade it, the loader on the hp is locked, friggin annoying,
it all works, but i dont like it, every thing is a mission to find, and i just have to use the search feature to find anything, where i know where every thing is in win7.

its a bit like the latest upgrade on my htc, everything was fine, an update came out, now ive got a 3 hour battery life.

i cant imagine 10 is going to be any better when they are clearly basing it on 8.
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 23 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

One the audio side of things win10 looks to have some interesting improvements and not just for developers. WDM drivers getting down to ASIO levels.

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Windows 10 has standardised the program structure and audio and MIDI APIs (programming interface that developers use to hook into OS level functions). So what? Well as we are told - this means that now developing for Windows 10 means you can access ALL Windows 10 devices from the same codebase. Thats, phones, desktops, tablets, Raspberry Pi 2 (it will run 10 too) - could run a single application. They say their aim is to reach up to 1 Billion devices in the first 1-2 years.


This is a bold move and is aimed at encouraging developers to start working on applications to work for Windows 10. In addition for the first 12 months of release of Windows 10 from 7, 8, 8.1 then its going to be a free upgrade.


MIDI API - also available across all Windows 10 devices - this new API allows multi-client access to single MIDI hardware, new jitter-free operation, plus other bug fixes - we hope they embrace the RTP MIDI (over the network too)


Audio Stack Optimisation - new low latency priority operation rather than previous priorities of battery life etc. 15ms shaved off the WDM and WASAPI off the bat.
Additionally application developers can access and define minimum buffer sizes to generate latencies. On the phone OS, thats gone down from over 100ms to "tens of ms".

Audio Core Optimisation - it will now be possible to define and isolate all the core audio processing to a single core, meaning no other processes will be able to interrupt the stream.


New Codecs - FLAC and ALAC for Apple device support which means less "unsupported media type". Web Audio is also added.

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