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 Posted: 14:03 - 24 Jun 2015 Post subject: Rich parents trade internship places with other rich parents |
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Difficult to explain in the title but this to me is a shining example of how unequal society still is.
Article here: https://graduatefog.co.uk/2015/4111/myinternswap-internship-parents-go-online-to-trade-work-placements/
Rich parents in top companies can offer free internship positions on the website 'myInterSwap', in exchange for their own children being given internships elsewhere.
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https://graduatefog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/BBC-myinternswap.jpg
This person is offering a position at their London-based publishing organisation, in return for their own child (educated at London City School for Boys which I know is a good £15000ish per term because my rather rich mate went there) being given a position somewhere too.
Meanwhile the rest of us who don't run 'desirable' companies or have managerial positions which might allow us to offer such a thing... well we just get on as is.
Not that this is anything new, but it certainly makes things a lot easier for those who already use such methods. |
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"educated at London City School for Boys which I know is a good £15000ish per term because my rather rich mate went there"
Not quite... https://www.clsb.org.uk/fees |
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Yes, there are three terms in a school year.
Lord Percy says "£15000ish per term".
Whilst the schools website "£4962 per term".
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"School lunch is provided at a cost of £229 per term." if that's a fixed rate then it's quite a good deal considering that I see the same couple come into my work place every couple of weeks and often spending just under that (yes, the place and them are a little upmarket) on food shopping.
Can I visit there just for lunch to same me money in the long run?
The picture on that link shows no real signs of snobbery, maybe young lads with parents that have a bit of money on the side for their education.
I'd be concerned that a lot of older lads are smiling and clapping at one young helpless individual, lack of females makes me think he's in for a good time  |
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"I wanted to highlight how it just always seems to be a thing reserved for people with money"
Looking through that myinternship website it seems to mostly be uni students after placements.
Only seen a couple of ads from public school parents and even then, I've found one from someone at Marlborough College and that's it for the big prestigious private schools.
I've found more ads on there from state schools / academies than I have from private schools.  |
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| Ste wrote: | "I wanted to highlight how it just always seems to be a thing reserved for people with money"
Looking through that myinternship website it seems to mostly be uni students after placements.
Only seen a couple of ads from public school parents and even then, I've found one from someone at Marlborough College and that's it for the big prestigious private schools.
I've found more ads on there from state schools / academies than I have from private schools.  |
I think you're missing the bigger picture and just trying to criticise the OP because that's what you usually tend to do. My 'private schooling' comment isn't actually relevant at all.
Do you think it's ok for people to play swapsies with internship positions for their kids, and for the kids of people with other internships to offer? Sounds a bit too exclusive to me. Do you think it's fair that this can only be done by those who are fortunate enough to be in such a position to do so?
I know the issue is nothing new, but this new website really doesn't help anyone but the lucky few. It actually makes things easier for them. Is that a good thing for the rest of us? |
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The private schooling comments appear to be just as wrong as the rich comments.
Parents can swap internships if they want to, I doubt internships obtained in that way are actually of much value on a CV. I can't see a placement arranged by mum or dad will interest potential employers nearly as much as someone who's got a placement from the merit of their work rather than who their parents know.
"doesn't help anyone but the lucky few"
The lucky few being those who look at the website and discover that rich public school kids are in the minority on there?
"It actually makes things easier for them. Is that a good thing for the rest of us?"
For them? I assume by that you're meaning the privately educated rich kids who seem to be a minority on there? |
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| Ste wrote: | The private schooling comments appear to be just as wrong as the rich comments.
Parents can swap internships if they want to, I doubt internships obtained in that way are actually of much value on a CV. I can't see a placement arranged by mum or dad will interest potential employers nearly as much as someone who's got a placement from the merit of their work rather than who their parents know.
"doesn't help anyone but the lucky few"
The lucky few being those who look at the website and discover that rich public school kids are in the minority on there?
"It actually makes things easier for them. Is that a good thing for the rest of us?"
For them? I assume by that you're meaning the privately educated rich kids who seem to be a minority on there? |
Do you know what that website is all about? I think you've missed a bit of info.
It's for people to offer internships, in return for their own kids being given an internship.
So no, it's not anything to do with private education. I stupidly used that to add a bit of biased weight to the thread. Bad move, but hey ho I did it.
My point still stands. The whole thing is only accessible to those in high managerial positions and those who own their own business who can generate and offer such internships.
It's of course a natural thing to help out your family in such a way. But this website only makes thing worse. Where once it was just rich people using their personal connections to help each other out, they can now access a whole pool of others. Meanwhile the rest of us have nothing to offer for that website, and so get nothing in return. It's just another degree of separation between the privileged and the rest.
And do you really think everyone writes on their CV exactly how they achieved their placements? That sort of thing can be quite easily buried or overlooked. I doubt many recruiters or interviewers would go to the trouble to research the way someone has gained their work experience. Experience is experience and that's that. And it's now far easier for a certain select few to get it... |
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It's an incredibly tame example of old boys networks and the degrees of separation in society.
The site says nothing about high managerial positions, the offers and requests are incredibly vague so I doubt they're anything significant.
"the rest of us have nothing to offer for that website"
Speak for yourself.  |
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Why didn't you recruit a local disadvantaged yoof for the placement?  |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 11 years, 17 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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