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| Kaneda80 |
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 Kaneda80 Borekit Bruiser

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 Posted: 20:06 - 25 Jun 2015 Post subject: Target fixation |
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hello all,
So after 7-8 months of riding and over 11,000 miles I had my first "oh sh*t" moment that could have been really nasty and was purely caused by my own bad judgment.
Let me set the scene
Just finished my last nightshift, I work in chiswick and live in Ashford kent.
On my last shift in a block, I generally like to take the scenic rout home, it can take up to two hours but is a fun ride that is somewhat meditative.
I came through London and wasn't in a rush to get home, was enjoying the ride and the weather, so when I got to gravesend decided to stop and try something new, I told the tom-tom to take me home via the winding roads set to max.
I had a very enjoyable ride, riding within my comfort zone (at least I thought so) but spirited. I do not know all the roads, they generally have very little visibility due to the trees and hedges so I slow down on approach then power out as the turn opens up and I can see ahead.
After about 45 minutes into the ride I approached a village, there was a right turn past a pub with some guys doing some work.
Foolishly I approached this turn too fast, as once I got to it, it tightened.
There was a workmans plastic barrier by the pub and I fixated on it.
As it loomed up I started to squeeze the brakes and the bike predictably stood up and started going straight, I kept saying over and over about twenty times in the one and a half second or so this event took place "stop looking at the f**king barrier, let go of the brake"
The front wheel started to lose traction and juddered as I (God only knows how) managed to slow the bike enough to regain control of the situation and finished the turn with ought plowing into anything, although there were inches in it. There was a car behind me and all the workmen obviously saw the close call and my cheeks went red.
The rest of the ride home was still fun but marred by that close call that was entirely my own fault.
I have always managed to stay calm when riding, i ride through London and my heart rate doesn't even rise when van drivers try to kill me on a daily basis, so what the heck happened? What the heck made me fixate? And why the hell did I misjudge that corner so badly? Was I fatigued? Over confident? I guess no one can really answer that but myself I just needed to get that off my chest around fellow bikers.
I am still new to riding despite having a relatively high mileage.
Am I right in thinking track days are the way to go to really train myself not to target fixate?i am registering with an MSV track day for August https://www.msvtrackdays.com/bike/calendar/2015/august/24-bh-kfrs.aspx
It looks pretty good, I can't really afford the £300 odd for full track days at the moment, is this going to help? I was pretty shaken up by the situation and very disappointed in myself for such bad judgement and how I handled it when it happened. ____________________ I like turtles |
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| Dalemac |
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 Dalemac World Chat Champion

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| WD Forte |
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| dydey90 |
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 dydey90 World Chat Champion

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Happened to me when I first got my ER6, went into a corner that I'd never even thought about going through in the car and suddenly I was staring into the hedge and sweating. Made it round right on the edge of the gutter with poo hanging out thinking "40 is too much for that corner"
Last time I went through it I was going about 70 and felt like the bike was barely leant over at all  ____________________ This post is probably not serious and shouldn't be taken literally.
Past: CBR125,ER6f NINJA 650, ZZR600 Current: VFR750 |
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| Just_James |
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It's one of those things that's really easy to overcome in theory but can be a little more tricky putting into practice, particularly when something catches you off guard. I suppose it can be almost instinctive to look at the object you' fear' rather than just looking at where you want to go.
Not really had an issue with it on the road but initially found it hard to overcome when first getting back into mountain biking and the same principles apply.
Very easy to see and focus on the 'obstacles' (which is where you generally end up) rather than just holding your head up and looking ahead to where you want to be. ____________________ Current Bikes / Projects: 1999 Rieju RS1 50
Previous bikes - 1986 DT125R (field bike), 1989 KX250, 1980 KX420 (with 500cc big bore), 1992 YZ250, 1988 KX500, 1989 XR250R, 1988 VFR400R NC24, 1999 Cagiva Mito 125, 2008 Rieju RS2 50 , 1993 Honda NSR 125 |
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| Kaneda80 |
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 Kaneda80 Borekit Bruiser

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 Posted: 21:15 - 25 Jun 2015 Post subject: |
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| Dalemac wrote: | yes, this happens. I've done it myself as a learner, and binned it.
If you fixate on a target, you will more than likely end up hitting it.
Go slow into corners that you aren't sure about, and accelerate out of them.
Also, instead of doing a trackday, look into doing a bikesafe course or similar - it will be much cheaper and will be focused on road riding. |
Hey man, yeah this MSV thing is a combination, I get an observed road ride with a Rospa or Aims instructor, first aid for bikers, hazard perception theory talk and two 20min track day tasters all for £55 it's put on by kent fire and rescue at brands hatch ____________________ I like turtles |
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| Old Git Racing |
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| Doomsnite |
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 Posted: 06:36 - 26 Jun 2015 Post subject: |
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That day looks good. Might give it a go myself with am introduction into track riding  ____________________ Triumph Street Triple-R
Sold: Honda Hornet CB600F-Y / Yamaha YBR125 |
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 robertw95 Trackday Trickster

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| Acemastr wrote: | The hardest thing to do on a bike is to look through the corner and not infront of your bike/an object, I have to remind myself from time to time and my corners are so so much better when I do |
This exactly, i know what to do, but knowing and doing are two completely different things.
I once had a little mazda car thing deliberately slow the traffic down so i would overtake everything and try and race it, i was young and thought i can do him, the corner we went round was nice and open so i could see round, but i was on the opposite side of the road cranked over at about 75 and he was right on the side of me, all that was going through my head was look at the road,look at the road, look at the road.
got through the corner and i did him on the straight, traffic lights ahead on red, we sat next to each other having a laugh, still boggles me what he'd had done to his car for it to be that quick.
Moral of the story looking where i wanted to be and not at the field or barrier at the side of the road got me through. ____________________ The trick to life is to not get too attached to it......... |
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 Kaneda80 Borekit Bruiser

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 robertw95 Trackday Trickster

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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 10 years, 235 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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