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Mark65
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 28 Jun 2015    Post subject: Bike Buying Experiences Reply with quote

Hi All
So my CG was sold today and I arranged to view a Divvy with a chap off eBay, he was selling a turquoise divvy and said he had a dark almost black one as well, now it was a bit of a trek from Wigan to Howden but I thought what the hell there was nothing Ive seen near me so far that was any good. Nearly two hours later I arrive and f%$k me he hadn't even got the bike out, it was buried next to 4 other divvy 900`s and all i could see was the back end, would he start it up?, no, ten minutes later he had other visitors and I was ushered on, he waffled on about he didn't need to sell bikes and didn't want to sound big headed Shocked , four hours for nothing really, is this the norm from those in Yorkshire?, shame really the price was ok the bike from what i saw was the best Ive seen so far but im not handing over my money to a arrogant rude person like that, he works under the name of All Things Diversion, starting to get pissed off now trying to find a bike.
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 28 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely not up the usual high standards of an interaction with a Yorkshireman.
I wouldn't give somebody a penny of my money personally if they can't be arsed to give me the time of day. I'd also be suspicious when he refused to start it up.
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 28 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know the guy you're talking about, hes buys and restores XJ600 and XJ900 diversions, and his stuff is usually great condition. Hes seems to do it more of a hobby than anything else.

I've bought divvy parts off him a few times and he has a reputation for decent bikes and parts...

But that attitude stinks, if someone went to that effort to come and look, the least i'd do is offer a cuppa! You turn up to view the bike, sit on it, look around... Not just to stare at its arse from the doorway. A picture would have been more useful.

Btw, which were you looking at? A 600 or 900 divvy? I run a 900, quality bike!
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 28 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much man-love:

https://diversionclub.proboards.com/thread/16678/dean-all-diversion

Perhaps you just caught him on a bad day. But I can't see how he was planning to sell the bike without wheeling it out.
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 28 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is an image he sent and what i got a look at when there, he knew over 5 hours earlier I was coming, the bike looked great but im not parting with cash till i see it properly and hear it at least, I would have had it from him. I m still annoyed 200 mile round trip for ten minutes, he prolly does it for a hobby but still should have some decency when someone comes, I took 45 minutes to conclude my sale this morning for my bike even though I wanted to get away to view this. Any way still on the look out for a decent low mileage machine for commuting on.

@Moo, was looking at a 600 but the divvy seemed to tik my boxes for the price to commute on while I save for a sportier bike next year, not sure what mpg a 900 gets.

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PostPosted: 19:17 - 28 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair he probably gets loads of no shows and test pilots. Any chance that you come across as a bit of a pikey?
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 28 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark65 wrote:


@Moo, was looking at a 600 but the divvy seemed to tik my boxes for the price to commute on while I save for a sportier bike next year, not sure what mpg a 900 gets.

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Mine gets about 45mpg with spirited riding Laughing

When i had a 600, that was around 60-70mpg
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 28 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
To be fair he probably gets loads of no shows and test pilots. Any chance that you come across as a bit of a pikey?


Lol no, clean shaven, black jeans, black shoes and driving an almera.
Far from piky ish,I saw the forum posts about him and thought he was a decent bloke with a good reputation.

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PostPosted: 19:50 - 28 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well then, sounds like he's just got a case of "Precious Bikes of the Shop". Common enough ailment.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 28 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you looked at this one?

https://www.gumtree.com/p/yamaha-motorbikes/yamaha-xj900-diversion-low-mileage-full-luggage-set-and-tank-cover-with-bag/1122840519

No shortage of storage on it if nothing else Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 28 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just_James wrote:


Thanks.
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 28 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be pretty pissed off I after a fair trek that happened, sellers seem to love the 'no time wasters' phrase, works both ways & always appreciated somebody taking the time to come check a bike out thoroughly regardless of outcome when I'm selling, its what I expect when buying.

Some bad experiences I've had, funnily enough when going to look at a Divvy 6 in 2012, went up to South Shields (60 mile round trip) got a mate s dad to come up in his Berlingo with the bike trailer (bike had no MOT & I was fairly sure I was gonna get it from the photos and the seller over the phone).

Get to the house (semi-detached & quite nice for Shields) we go to the garage in which there are a pristine BMW GS, Blade and the Divvy with a chain gingerer than my hair, more ally corrosion than you can shake a stick at, the tank & fairings in Matte black when in the photos they were clearly gloss further to that when he started the thing it made a good impression of washing machine full of nuts, can't believe he even bothered starting it knowing how the engine sounded & after wheeling it out in the state it was in, the photos must have been taken at least 2 winters prior to then.

Also had a run in beginning of this year before I got the triumph went to look at a ZRX 1100, had a chew on trying to even get a viewing & when he finally showed up & wheeled it out to show he had taken the rear shocks off & put them on his 1200, the back had a 2x4 with bolts going through where the shocks mount holding it up, bike barely turned over (he admitted the fuel was stale & battery most likely flat from 6 months of sitting in the shop) then proceeded to start removing the tank checking the plugs & coils whilst 'politely I'll admit' asking for a hand diagnosing the starting troubles, I went to buy a bike and ended up with the seller basically getting me to help get it running whilst still refusing to budge on the £1500 asking price....fook that! Found out a few months later the guy 'Ripper' got caught in the 90's with a van full of stolen bikes, so definitely glad I stayed clear!
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PostPosted: 07:45 - 29 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

In for a penny...

dydey90 wrote:
I wouldn't give somebody a penny of my money personally if they can't be arsed to give me the time of day.


It's 7:45 in the morning!


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PostPosted: 08:29 - 29 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just buy my ZZR600D, £550. Easy job, get it delivered and you'll have a bike under £700 with new tyres
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 29 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Paddy but I can still get the ZZR600 2001 with 20k on it for £800 just needs downpipes,rear tyre and shims sorting, starting to seriously think about that one after seeing the rubbish people want for silly prices. Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: 10:16 - 29 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark65 wrote:
Thanks Paddy but I can still get the ZZR600 2001 with 20k on it for £800 just needs downpipes,rear tyre and shims sorting, starting to seriously think about that one after seeing the rubbish people want for silly prices. Crying or Very sad

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£200 + £120 + Time to do shims. That'd be a good price if you do the shims yourself. What makes you think the shims need doing? I did mine at 32k I think and only 4 needed changing.
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PostPosted: 10:22 - 29 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody have experience with Penrith Motorcycles, they have a nice CB500 there.
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 29 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark65 wrote:
Anybody have experience with Penrith Motorcycles, they have a nice CB500 there.
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Hi Snoosnoo, I spoke to the previous owner and he said he only got rid because of the cost to put it right shims,pipes, tyre = £1100 he was quoted. I just assumed they would need doing, not sure about rear shock on it. I have really considered it after reading your guide you did Thumbs Up .

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PostPosted: 10:54 - 29 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark65 wrote:
£1100 he was quoted.


I'd guess that was brand new downpipes and a hefty labour charge.

Downpipes £100 - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAWASAKI-ZZR600-ZZR-600-E-EXHAUST-DOWNPIPES-YEAR-1998-/161731826716?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item25a7f7d41c

Tyres look at Oponeo and M&P. I managed to pay under £140 for a pair of Pilot Road last year, came with a free battery charger too which I sold for £20.

Shims cost bugger all just a chunk of your time.

If the rear shock is buggered that is the big cost. A new Hagon is about £300. Used OEM can be under £100 but would likely be a bit shagged.

So if shock is ok you could be on the road under £300. If the shock is goosed I wouldn't bother at that price, loads of ZZR's around for under £1k on the road.
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PostPosted: 11:04 - 29 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark65 wrote:
Hi Snoosnoo, I spoke to the previous owner and he said he only got rid because of the cost to put it right shims,pipes, tyre = £1100 he was quoted. I just assumed they would need doing, not sure about rear shock on it. I have really considered it after reading your guide you did Thumbs Up .

Mark


As has ben linked above, you can get downpipes at a good price, and as for the shock, I wouldn't only hold my hopes up for a new hagon. An option is to get a ZZR1200 rear shock with ZZR1100 dogbones (try to get the sidestand too off the 1100).

Tyre can be whatever price you want to pay.

Yeah the valves are easy, I just sat down with the Haynes and plodded on. Take your time and you can't get it wrong and if there's a mega emergency, I could pop over and give you a hand if you got stuck.
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 29 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any easy way to tell if the rear shock is goosed?

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PostPosted: 11:49 - 29 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark65 wrote:
Any easy way to tell if the rear shock is goosed?

Mark


Sit on it. Mine was gone, when I went over a speed bump it would be very "wallowey".

I used it for over a year before I replaced it though so it's not going to kill you. I managed to get a second hand Hagon off the zzr forum for £100.
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 29 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

snoosnoo what kind off mpg do you get from it riding nicely, do think it would be a good all year round bike summer and winter?.

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