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Musketeer
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa vs Supercorsa for dry roads Reply with quote

Opinions please? I'm about to buy tyres today.

I ride only in nice weather and usually for a minimum 2 hour blast. Will Supercorsas heat up fairly quickly on the road or would it be better to get Rosso Corsas?
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're even contemplating Supercorsas, just get scrubs. I just Trumpet Tyres on Facebook but a good set of SC2s will last ages, loads of people sell them for £100-120 a pop.
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might struggle to find scrubs in a 190 for the rear though. 180s and 200s aplenty on fleabay.
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa vs Supercorsa for dry roads Reply with quote

Shouldn't be a problem to find scrubs that will fit his bike.

I'd go for the Rosso if buying for the road, but supercorsas have decent grip from cold and warm up fast.

I wouldn't want to be consistently testing the limits of either on the road.
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scrubbed Supercorsas are cheap enough, bought two set off Gumtree for £35 each which was cheap. Friends and family get them off some guy and they pay £50 a pair typically.

Edit : for a GSXR 600 , just realised you ride a Blade, maybe a they'll be more since it's a bigger rear? I'm not really sure. Can't imagine them being more than £60/70 a pair max though, check gumtree Smile Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:
a good set of SC2s will last ages

IMO it might be better to go for the SP instead, as that's the road going version, to avoid issues with heat cycling on the SC compound tyres
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:
If you're even contemplating Supercorsas, just get scrubs. I just Trumpet Tyres on Facebook but a good set of SC2s will last ages, loads of people sell them for £100-120 a pop.


To be honest I'm 80% after Rosso Corsas.. but Supercorsa seem like another option for my needs.

The Rosso Corsas will probably last longer.

EDIT: Those scrubs seem like a bargain though Thinking I don't think I will find them in 190/55 R17 rear Thumbs Down Front is not a problem 120/70 R17
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK.. Pirelli Diablo Supersorsa SP it is then. Somebody stop me before it's to late Laughing

EDIT: It already is. Thanks for the replies Smile
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there any benefit to having a racetec over an m7/m5 tyre on the road? For road riding I cannot see the point of a racetec.

(Using Metzler because I don't know the Pirelli example)
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know where the m7/m5 comes, but don't see any decent advantage for the Supercorsa over the next step down road tyre - well, apart from that you can get them as 'scrubs', which is much cheaper.
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aspire2 wrote:
Is there any benefit to having a racetec over an m7/m5 tyre on the road? For road riding I cannot see the point of a racetec.

(Using Metzler because I don't know the Pirelli example)


Not in practical terms, maybe if you care what people think of your tyre choice at the local biker place Confused . Stick a pair of M7RR on there and they will last longer and deal with some track time... I did a track day on Z8's and didn't die, not even a little bit. It was my first but I was overtaking more than being overtaken.

M5's should be cheap and I was happy with them on my old Daytona but the M7 is supposed to be better in every way.
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had the supercorsa and changed to Dunlop Sportsmart Sportmax would highly recommend for dry and wet.
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stonesie wrote:
Aspire2 wrote:
Is there any benefit to having a racetec over an m7/m5 tyre on the road? For road riding I cannot see the point of a racetec.

(Using Metzler because I don't know the Pirelli example)


Not in practical terms, maybe if you care what people think of your tyre choice at the local biker place Confused . Stick a pair of M7RR on there and they will last longer and deal with some track time... I did a track day on Z8's and didn't die, not even a little bit. It was my first but I was overtaking more than being overtaken.

M5's should be cheap and I was happy with them on my old Daytona but the M7 is supposed to be better in every way.


Hae some m7rr's on my 600 Gsxr, very pleased with them, -planted and stable, only used on the road but a very good tyre, cant comment on wear as ive only done about 800 miles but they are still looking good.
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I get 2-3k out of the rear tyre I'll be happy.

I don't need wet grip, only dry grip.

I don't want to worry about heat cycles and I want them to warm up quickly, so road tyres rather than track tyres.

Thanks MarkJ for pointing out the difference between SP and SC.
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supercorsas warm up quickly anyway generally.
3k on a litre bike sounds very hopeful for them, however; unless you ride it at 500 commuter speeds maybe.

If I'm paying £50 a set, I don't mind the short life.
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:20 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my experience Supercorsa's will give you about 1-1.5K of 'good' performance even if they last 2k, the best being the 500 miles after you scrub them. They need to be pushed pretty much all the time to keep them up to temp on the road (in average temperatures, not like today) even the SP.
Rosso Corsa's are more consistent, are not affected by heat cycles as much and have enough grip for anyone bar a racer. Having said that if you get more than 3k out of one you are riding like a pussy.
You've got the tyres you think you needed, let us know what you think.

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PostPosted: 08:41 - 02 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm committed now Wink I fancy more dry weather focused tyres but still for the road. I hope both the Supercorsas SP and Rosso Corsas do just that.
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