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chris-red
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Front brake slow to return Reply with quote

When squeezing and letting go of the front brake lever on my Dad's Sprint the lever will return quite slowly. On my Speed Four which has more or less the same braking system if you let go the lever springs back into position.

What is this a symptom of?
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Could be a few things. But the first thing I would try is thoroughly bleeding the brakes, and if that fails strip out the master cylinder to check the seals (may as well replace them by then).

All the best

K
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the front wheel off the ground, spin it and see if when you put the brakes on the front wheel stops and as soon as you release the lever the wheel is free.
It might be more or less the same but different and you may be looking for a problem that isn't one.

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WD Forte
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blocked return hole in master cylinder?
lever binding on its pivot?
rotten seal jamming?
broken return spring?
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chris-red
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 02 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Hi

Could be a few things. But the first thing I would try is thoroughly bleeding the brakes, and if that fails strip out the master cylinder to check the seals (may as well replace them by then).

All the best

K


Brake have just been cleaned and bled, they are strong now (which is unusual for a Triumph!)
MC was what I was thinking too.
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 02 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Git Racing wrote:
Get the front wheel off the ground, spin it and see if when you put the brakes on the front wheel stops and as soon as you release the lever the wheel is free.
It might be more or less the same but different and you may be looking for a problem that isn't one.

OGR


There is definately a problem, it wasn't like this a while ago and my bike with the same MC operates fine.
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 02 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:
Blocked return hole in master cylinder?
lever binding on its pivot?
rotten seal jamming?
broken return spring?


Where is the 'Return spring'?
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 02 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing he means in the master cylinder.

My guess would be perished seals in the mc. The flaking bits of rubber have got stuck.

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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 02 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:

Where is the 'Return spring'?


There is a small spring in the master cylinder that pushes the piston back out. Sometimes they corrode (especially if the fluid has a load of water in it) and / or snap. A rebuild kit normally comes with a replacement one.

All the best

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PostPosted: 11:16 - 02 Jul 2015    Post subject: mc Reply with quote

Where is the 'Return spring'?

so you aint had an mc apart then.......your question should probably read" where is the return hole?"

its the tiny hole usually at the bottom of the countersunk ( some people think "blind hole" ) hole more towards the pressure end of the master cylinder, in the reservoir floor, sometimes under a tin shield.

have a think about why its there. Karma

what happens when you push the caliper piston back in?
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 02 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would certainly go fro a seal kit and rebuild the master cylinder. About £25 and an easy enough job.
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