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PostPosted: 11:11 - 30 Jun 2015    Post subject: Hi Everybody, Thoughts? Reply with quote

Hey people of the interwebs,

Bit about me: 21, from West Yorkshire. I have ridden off-road before but not in a few years and was just 125cc Pit Bikes.

I am looking to do CBT & Theory asap, then next month go for A2 License.
(Anyone run a test center near Leeds?)

Most likely going to then buy a Kawasaki Ninja 300 (ABS) in White or Green, still undecided. From New? (Thoughts on this as a first bike?)
https://www.kawasaki.com/Products/2015-Ninja-300-ABS

Would be used for mainly commuting to work (Have car already), 95% Motorway, 30 Miles each way.

Now i'm mostly wanting opinions of some gear I have looked at getting, just to get me started etc;

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006VZXP9G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3URDK8CREORQ9

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00D1VX7L4/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3MTEF186O7VV5

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004NVQJVQ/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3MTEF186O7VV5

I already have some gloves with carbon shell protection (Don't know why I have them, but I do.)

Lastly I wear leather boots for work, so do I need some proper bike ones or not?

Anyway longish post, thanks for reading, any questions, qualms or queries?

p.s. Did want this but can't find a UK seller Sad
https://www.amazon.com/Speed-Strength-SS1500-Helmet-875747/dp/B009NKU9JU
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 30 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello.

New bike is a lot of money, just make sure you test ride to see that it's the right bike for you. 60 miles a day? Make sure it's comfortable, and factor in that you might well be servicing it every 4 months. Also check the terms of the sale, you may have to get it serviced by the dealer to maintain the warranty. If it were me, I'd get a used bike, restricting means more choice (i.e. more choice than stock A2 compliant) but that's up to you.

Kit: Helmet will be fine as long as it fits properly. Might want to get some ear plugs as well. Fit is key though, regardless of anything else such as weight, style, air vents etc.

Textiles are a good choice for commuting, mine were around the same price and are very waterproof but are starting to rip/fall apart after 14 months of constant use.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 30 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would recommend 2wheelskool in Eccleshill, Bradford for training. Did my CBT & DAS with them within about 2 months
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 30 Jun 2015    Post subject: Re: Hi Everybody, Thoughts? Reply with quote

LostUsername wrote:
next month go for A2 License.

Same as everybody else. Good luck getting any training or test dates.


LostUsername wrote:
Kawasaki Ninja 300 (ABS)

For motorway work? Not for me, I'd be looking at a restricted 600+ bike, older and pre-depreciated.

At 60 miles a day, watch out for service intervals. The Ninja appears to want major services with valve checks every 7500 miles. You'll be pushing 15000 miles in a year, so do the sums on servicing costs in order to maintain the warranty on a new one.

Will fashion-critique the gear later. Helmets, go by fit over anything else.

LostUsername wrote:
Lastly I wear leather boots for work, so do I need some proper bike ones or not?

No, not until you're tumbling down the road. Wink

Leather boots are fine for training and tests. I wear gore-tex lined army boots.
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 30 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

willber wrote:
Would recommend 2wheelskool in Eccleshill, Bradford for training. Did my CBT & DAS with them within about 2 months


Thanks I will have a look at them Thumbs Up

Rogerborg wrote:
For motorway work? Not for me, I'd be looking at a restricted 600+ bike, older and pre-depreciated.

At 60 miles a day, watch out for service intervals. The Ninja appears to want major services with valve checks every 7500 miles. You'll be pushing 15000 miles in a year, so do the sums on servicing costs in order to maintain the warranty on a new one.


Any you would recommend then? I liked the Ninja 300 as t seems to have decent fuel economy, Cheap(ish) from new, looks decent, and all round that it is a good starter bike.

I have head that bigger bikes that have been restricted lack alot of power as you don't receive its full potential.

Also I won't be using the bike every day for communing as I would still have my car so you could probably half that mileage .

As for the gear, we all have different tastes Wink, I will go for a helmet that fits good over looks though, and the boots I have are gore-tex.

Honda CBR300R vs Kawasaki Ninja 300 (I like the sports looks)
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 30 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as the kit goes, bear in mind that buying online can be a minefield. The sizing of motorcycle clothing can be all over the place and you really need to be trying lids on before you buy.

You have a car, so why not take a day out to somewhere like J&S Accessories? There is a megastore in Doncaster that may be close enough to you. At least you will not be wasting time returning gear that does not fit.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 30 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh, think I might while I have the time off, was just mainly for the practicality of it, I will be getting the clothing somewhat bigger to go over my work apparel.

Just looked at J&S Motorbike store also,

https://www.jsaccessories.com/kawasaki/new/bike/5196/sports/541479/2015-ninja-300-abs.aspx

hmm, Tempted and maybe add the Ninja 300 Akrapovic Exhaust also Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 30 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd hang fire until you've done your training and tests. By that time you'll be used to a 500cc+ bike, possibly a restricted 600 and will have a better idea of what you like and don't like about it.

Choosing a new bike on looks is a bit like ordering a Russian bride online, only with slightly less warranty.
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 30 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the wait like for theory tests in your area? I'd look at getting that booked asap or else it might hold you A2 plans up some. Just done mine but there was a wait of a few weeks and limited appointments for a month or so.

Not a recommendation from experience as I have none to speak of. However, if you are looking for a natively A2 compliant super sport, have you considered the CBR500R? About £500-600 more than you are considering splurging on the Ninja. A touch more power and 8k service intervals, with valve checks pretty far apart (except for the 600 mile service, which I hear is a biatch).
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 30 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the ninja 250 and it was great for the motorway so I would imagine the 300 is even better.
It will do 90 without really pushing it.Will do 110 if you push it and you can push it because the fairing and riding position is fantastic for avoiding the wind.
Got a 600 now.Naked I admit but I get buffeted around and my head gets pushed back more than I did on the ninja. Don't really enjoy motorways on it.
Same on the half faired 750 I had too.That was sit up and beg so probably more of my head was above the screen.
I did a 25 miles each way commute with 90% motorway and dual carriageways and found the ninja did it great and fuel economy was good.Tyres lasted ages too.
But yeah the cost of a 300 and the regular valve check isn't ideal.
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 30 Jun 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can recommend Bumpy in Birstall too, excellent trainers.
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bike - I would be looking at spending about a quarter of what the Ninja 300 costs and getting something like a GPZ500S with a restrictor kit fitted. Unless you plan to stay on an A2 licence and keep the new Ninja for ever, it would make sense to wait and spend the big monies in a few years time.
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBT Now booked for next Tuesday @ 2wheelskool ,thanks Willber for the recommendation, wish me luck Smile

Wednesday Biker wrote:
I had the ninja 250 and it was great for the motorway so I would imagine the 300 is even better.
It will do 90 without really pushing it.Will do 110 if you push it and you can push it because the fairing and riding position is fantastic for avoiding the wind. was sit up and beg so probably more of my head was above the screen.

I did a 25 miles each way commute with 90% motorway and dual carriageways and found the ninja did it great and fuel economy was good. Tyres lasted ages too.
But yeah the cost of a 300 and the regular valve check isn't ideal.


Fuel is a big thing with this and on paper it looks decent, also I am now thinking about getting the Ninja on tick for 2 years lol, because i cant upgrade it anyway and might even get servicing in with it, I need to have a look Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll spend more financing with fuel payments than you would on a cheaper bike with fuel payments, or are you still in year 3 and have not got a grasp on how numbers work? Neutral

£800 tops ONCE on your first bike + fuel.

£100 a month on a bike + fuel.

Can you calculate which costs more over 12 months?

Most bikes can get decent MPG... depends how ham fisted you are.
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Camo patterns work really well on a motorcycle, they break up your outline so it's harder for car drivers to identify the blob as a motorcycle and will identify you as some species of walt, cockwomble or other figure to be hated.

Try helmets before you buy. Fit is everything.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

LostUsername wrote:
Fuel is a big thing with this

Let's say 7,500 miles a year and that you get a very optimistic 75mpg ~=450litres ~= £552

GPZ500S, assume it's been BodyGuarded and only returns 55mpg (although I got more like 65) ~=613 litres ~=£711

Best case fuel saving is ~£159. Tyres might cost a bit less, chain and sprockets won't need done if you look after them. Costs less to run the Ninja, right?

No, quite the opposite. Add in ~£1200 of finance payments on the Ninja, ~£1000 of depreciation (yes, that's a real cost), and 2 dealer services including a valve adjustment (good luck getting that comped) at £300 upwards, possibly a lot upwards - I really would recommend that you get a firm price on that.

You don't buy a new bike to save money, you do it as a treat when you can afford to throw the money away.
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres a black gpz500 that parks near the local shops and it looks pretty good imo. Nice riding position and apparently good on fuel.
I think I would go for one of those over the 300 tbh. Its the sensible option.
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 01 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

as above.

pass your tests first, then get some money together and go looking. i bought a 500cc and restricted it, rode it for 18 months and sold it for what i bought it for. 65mpg and comfortable enough. it might look a bit shit but who cares.

after restriction, get money together and buy a triple. or a blade. Surprised
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 02 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Decided, Im getting a DRZ400SM
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 02 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you really.
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 03 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, replace the tires, get a lowering kit, upgrade fuel tank (don't need to, just preference), and restrict. Can go off road with buddies also, and cheap enough bike for a first. Will run plenty fine sitting at 60 on the motorway.
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PostPosted: 00:24 - 03 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Restrict? The damn thing only kicks out 39bhp.

Seat like a lump of wood. (so I have been told)

Single cylinder and you want to commute on the motorway?

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PostPosted: 07:46 - 03 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mmm. It's a dreadful choice for your stated purpose. You could pay to transform it into something a little less unsuitable, but then again you could just put knobblies on a CB500 for the two times you'll actually ride offroad.

All of this is theoretical until you've got a license anyway, and then you'll be in a far better position to make an informed decision.
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PostPosted: 08:12 - 03 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Potato.

DRZ is certainly less gay than a 'Ninja' 300, commuter-in-a-frock special, but even less suited to a motorway commute. It would be a lot cheaper though, and like others have pointed out, no turn key depreciation.

You'll be wanting two sets of wheels to go off-road.

I wouldn't personally recommend any 500 twins for any engaging riding, but I suppose they'd be ok for the motorway commute.
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