Cash Machine...Known Con?

[Vincent]

Just took my Dad to the cash machine....first machine he tried to get £50 but only got card back, (very sus). 2nd machine worked fine.

I got him to check his a/c online and sure enough, two lots of £50 have been taken.

Bastids

2 things I noticed.....there was a plain clothes copper at the 2nd machine when we arrived and also, when we moved from the first machine to the other, 2 girls moved in and they looked a bit cagey to me.
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[Ste]

Have you considered calling the bank rather than BCF?

"there was a plain clothes copper at the 2nd machine" How do you know they were a cop?

[NJD]

Sounds very similar to a scam that was run down the road from me a short while ago, turned out to be the cashpoint was bugged with a camera and the keypad was a fake.

Report to the shop the cash point is joined to so it can be turned off and investigated.

Phone the bank and explain the situation ASAP, may involve coppers if you remember details of zed females.

*flashback of every cash point locally hanging off the wall and not in use, I'd avoid withdrawing cash in the area for a while if you can*

[duhawkz]

I have heard of card readers being placed over the card slot, so they read your card as you're using the machine.

I am not aware of any thing that involves stopping the cash from coming out, then retrieving it later.

they only con i know of like that, is distracting the user as the cash comes out, then nicking the cash

Have you phoned the bank or been to the place with the dodgy machine to report it
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[Ste]

The first machine skimmed his card and at the second machine the two girls he noticed that 'moved in' got his pin number.

Call the bank now to get the card stopped.

[Vincent]

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Could be a "cash trap" claw device. Basically it nicks the money before you get to take it. The Romanian/scammer then uses the machine and takes your cash.

https://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/14564
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[Ste]

Okay. In answer to your original question, stopping the cash coming out is an older trick than card skimming.

I thought cash machine scams were as well known as the "I'll send you several thousands more than the agreed sale price by bank transfer, you can keep a couple of hundred of that for your trouble and send me the rest by western union. My collection agent will collect the bike. Thank you and god bless"

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[Vincent]

Ta for advice,

OK, bank informed and they say the £50 will go back soon.....but when I asked my Dad, (he had to talk to them on the phone), he's unsure they've cancelled the card

I'm not 100% sure it's a scam or just the machine playing up TBH. And they didn't seem at all interested in the story of the two girls Main thing is that it's reported. Next time I'm skint, I know what to do

It's a bit annoying that, in this case, there's no phone number to ring my Dads branch of Yorkshire bank
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[Ste]

Report it to the police if you want.

If it were me I'd be calling the bank again to confirm that the card has been cancelled.

Speaking with your local branch isn't necessary.

[Vincent]

Tell you what....the copper at the cash machine was a bit scarey looking......big butch looking thing she was...with cropped hair....looked like an extra tall russian gymanst on steroids. 'Wouldn't like to meet that up a dark alleyway


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[Vincent]

While on the subject, a coupe of years back, there was a cash machine near me that was giving out 2x whatever you asked for Word soon spread and within about an hour, the queue was about half a mile long
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[iooi]

[binge]

Best thing to do is live in your overdraft like I do.
That way, if you do get scammed, they've stolen from the bank, and not you.

Same way as a Credit Card is more secure to do online payments with. As it's not actually you're money they are taking.

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[Ariel Badger]

I once had a machine that had been wrongly loaded, the tenners were in the twenty pile and visa versa. A request for £250 resulted in £120 in £10s and one £20 note. I was not happy but the bank did sort it for me.
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[Ste]

Scammed money being from your overdraft makes no difference to anything.

The problem for people who have their card cloned is that their account gets emptied leaving them with no money for however long it takes the bank to sort it out. The chances are you're only going to discover that when trying to pay for something when the machine beeps saying card declined.

The majority of people will get the amount refunded to their account immediately upon reporting it to their bank, it's quite unfortunate for those who aren't part of that majority.

A card having a chip on it isn't going to stop the card being cloned and it's not going to stop the card being cashed out.

[Tritey]

There was an issue with the Coventry building society cash point machines a while back. You could put your card in and type in any pin and you would not be debited as long as you put an incorrent pin in. One family had over 250k out of the cash machines. Some got jail.

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/suspended-term-cash-point-mum-3166433