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Raksha
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: legal argument Reply with quote

I am buying a go pro for my bike.

told my dad that I was filtering traffic on the A650 near the by pass today he's had a fit heres what i told him.

basic I came off the round about 1 artic in front 1 behind so I have moved over to about a foot away form the centre line so I could see they artic in fronts mirrors.
I can see do sent mean he can see me thou I know that.
the road has a long curve in it so I couldn't see traffic in front for a bit so I sat patiently behind the artic till I could after I could and the road was clear on the on coming side I said fuck it and filtered it to the front of the lights.

dads kick off say what if some one opened there door so I couldn't break in time.

am guessing if I hit the door when they have opened it malicious there at fault if I can prove it.

if I cant prove it its my fault?

tl:dl version if so cock open his door when I am filtering and I hit his door am I in the wrong.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you aren't filtering, and someone opens their door not giving you time to stop, it'll be their fault.

I don't see how filtering would make it less their fault.
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they opened their door, they would be comitting an offence.

Opening a car door into danger is a specific offence under section 42 of the Road traffic act 1988 as specified in the The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986, section 105.

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No person shall open, or cause or permit to be opened, any door of a vehicle on a road so as to injure or endanger any person.


Subject to a level 3 fine (up to £1000). Level 4 if it was a goods vehicle (up to £2,500).
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guys
i know what's caused him to worries is me having a off last week after it rained and like a dick i forgot that the roads would be slipy and went round a round about at 30 and slid out.

hopefully the go pro will help him worrie less... in trouth this is going to back fire badly but hay ho.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You weren't wrong.

A Go Pro isn't going to save your life. You do know that, right?
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
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You weren't wrong.

A Go Pro isn't going to save your life. You do know that, right?


Dunno, if OP can display that his riding is better than his spelling then his dad might not batter him to death for filtering.
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

No they should check before opening their door they would be at fault who What if a cyclist or someone is coming up along side ???
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crashing still hurts regardless of who's fault it is.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

A GoPro will do nothing but aid as video evidence in the event of an insurance claim, as a pre-warning set the GoPro up so that a decent shot can be obtained of what's in-front of you in "normal" mode having the GoPro set to "wide" can distort things and make them seem further away than what they actually are, an insurance companies will think that you had more time than you did blah blah wriggle out of a claim.

Rage mode.

Your dad sounds like he wants to control what you do and doesn't like the idea of you being outside of his control, what's he going to do next follow you in a car and spy on you?

His opinion is just that, and your life is just that.. tell him thankyou for the concern but that you take responsibility for each and every action you carry out and it's no concern of his, quit telling him what you're up to if he doesn't agree with it.

Raksha wrote:
I said fuck it and filtered it to the front of the lights.


Congrats, really (no sarcasm).

You made a conscious decision to get yourself out of being fragile inbetween two lorry's and in front of all other traffic allow you to read the road ahead without any issues regarding visibility or worrying about the lorry/car in-front suddenly stopping and not be able to see ahead etc.

..

I can imagine your dad all fill your head with "motorbikes are dangerous" next, people used to tell me when I first started riding to "ride safe" and "be careful", tell me that bikes aren't safe and that cars are better etc and in honesty that did nothing but knock me down and make me constantly worry and think about things before every ride, as if learning on the roads wasn't a big enough task.

Soon learnt to give people the verbal middle finger response and tell them to jog on with their views.
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

He is being a hypocrite he spent a month or two in a coma after coming off a bike he still got on and rid it after.

Normally he's OK with most things but he's seen me ride once before (6 month ago) when I was looking behind me to see what they were doing and not paying attention to what was in front of me my own fault and I deserved the telling off I got.

his main issuse with my riding is I dont ride central dominant I ride about a 1 foot away form the center line which is a habit am trying to get out of at the moment to go do my tests.

the go pro is for me to look back at my riding in a day and go i fucked up there i forgot a check and so on.
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raksha wrote:
He is being a hippocrit he spent a month or two in a comma after coming off a bike he still got on and rid it after.


That's not being a hypocrite; that's just being concerned for your son when he seems to exhibit little due regard in dangerous situations (from the perspective of having been hurt badly before himself).

The benefit of experience he has. Fucked you shall be.
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Raksha wrote:
He is being a hippocrit he spent a month or two in a comma after coming off a bike he still got on and rid it after.


That's not being a hypocrite; that's just being concerned for your son when he seems to exhibit little due regard in dangerous situations (from the perspective of having been hurt badly before himself).

The benefit of experience he has. Fucked you shall be.


you got a point just whish he would talk to me rather then have a go.
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raksha wrote:
He is being a hippocrit he spent a month or two in a comma after coming off a bike he still got on and rid it after


Would that be a hippo cross bred with a critter?

How did he fit in a comma? Was it some giant 3D font?

If he got on the bike how did he get rid it after?


Raksha wrote:
i fucked up there i forgot a check and so on.


Apply the above to your typing
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
A GoPro will do nothing but aid as video evidence in the event of an insurance claim, as a pre-warning set the GoPro up so that a decent shot can be obtained of what's in-front of you in "normal" mode having the GoPro set to "wide" can distort things and make them seem further away than what they actually are, an insurance companies will think that you had more time than you did blah blah wriggle out of a claim.


Not only that, but like all fish-eye cameras they will make it seem like you are travelling faster than you actually are.
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before door opens...

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After door opens...

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PostPosted: 23:00 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My stepson was filtering to the front of lights and a guy opened his door to spit on the road. He hit the door and it flung him into the car waiting in the next lane (2 lanes leading up to the lights).

Incident was found 100% in his favour and the car owner's insurance footed the bill.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 06 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Not only that, but like all fish-eye cameras they will make it seem like you are travelling faster than you actually are.


Basically don't spend £2 with multiple zero's after it on a helmet camera "brand new", or at all, as a means of insurance protection because even then it's disguised as a camera meanwhile actually being a but hole expander for insurance companies.

It's like having a third unwanted opinion, of which the insurance company will always agree with as it's "actual accurate footage", I in no way shape or form expect insurance companies to have the knowledge that helmet camera is a fish eye, or what it does.

"A fish eye, fishes eye, sorry sir I don't see any fishes eye mentioned in your claim report, are you being %100 honest with us?" Rolling Eyes Laughing

Shit man, why did I buy a GoPro, paddy, paddy donate and save me? Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:44 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your dad is going to worry. Worried people don't always think or express themselves calmly or rationally. It might be easiest if you simply don't discuss your riding with him.

I've shown Mrs Borg footage of a very careful commute and a brief slow filter with loads of room still made her wow such worry very concern. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

when my gran was alive she always said I was never aloud a motorbike but was ok to have a scooter

I turned up one day on a 125cc bike she went mad at me and wouldn't let me in her house (I had borrowed it off a mate as mine hadn't been picked up from dealers)

next weekend I went to visit I had a brand new 400cc scooter
she didn't bat an eyelid Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

because oyster card..................
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 07 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyscooter wrote:
when my gran was alive she always said I was never aloud a motorbike but was ok to have a scooter

I turned up one day on a 125cc bike she went mad at me and wouldn't let me in her house (I had borrowed it off a mate as mine hadn't been picked up from dealers)

next weekend I went to visit I had a brand new 400cc scooter
she didn't bat an eyelid Laughing Laughing


i cant ride scooters to save my life i just cant balance on them only thing i think i could ride possible like a scooter is a goldwing and even then am doubt full
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 08 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raksha wrote:
i cant ride scooters to save my life i just cant balance on them only thing i think i could ride possible like a scooter is a goldwing and even then am doubt full
You're an idiot. An idiot that is bordering on illiteracy, at that.
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 08 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raksha wrote:
i cant ride scooters to save my life i just cant balance on them

Your dad may have a point being concerned about your riding.
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 08 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll just leave this here. It sounds like it may be beneficial.

https://www.bupa.co.uk/health/health-insurance
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 08 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:
I'll just leave this here. It sounds like it may be beneficial.

https://www.bupa.co.uk/health/health-insurance


He needs this first, as is I doubt he could make a Doctor understand him (or even fill in the BUPA forms).

https://www.ukla.org/
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