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ReadySalted
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 09 Jul 2015    Post subject: Did a MORE - Motorcycle Off Road Experience yesterday Reply with quote

Went to this yesterday:

https://www.rideoffroad.co.uk/

I've never ridden off road, and when tickets for this cropped up on a vouchers website I snapped one up. I think it cost a tenner or something, but for an afternoon of riding bikes I figured it was good value.

It's run co-operatively by the Motorcycle Industry Association, and the main off road bike manufacturers (KTM, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Honda, and Suzuki).
There were quite a few stands though run by people like the TRF.

I tipped up in the early afternoon, and there must have been between 40 and 50 of us there. Each of the manufacturers had big tent/ truck set ups and we were split into groups, one small group to each manufacturer. I was with Suzuki for the afternoon and their team of about 5 instructors got us kitted up with a range of decent branded gear. Most of which was brand new out of packets.
KTM seemed to have the largest presence there, after kitting up we had a quick brief by the director of KTM UK, who explained what the day was all about. In short; encouraging interest and participation in off road riding in any denomination. From buying a cheap bike and greenlaning, to getting a motocross bike and competing, or anything in between. There was no hard sell, and surprisingly their was no bias from any of the manufacturers.

The event was open to anybody with or without a license, so after our breif, our host manufacturers got us on a nursery circuit on the little 125s to make sure we could ride.
After that we spent the following 2 hours riding around a track in groups of 5 led by an instructor from in our case, Suzuki. We had a whole host of bikes to try out, and swapped amongst ourselves every few laps.

I tried a KTM 350 (EXC I think), Kawasaki KLX 450, Yamaha WR250, and the Honda CRF250.

The easiest to ride, was by far the Honda CRF. Compared with the On/Off power of the Kawasaki and the skittishness of the yam and the Ktm, the Honda was a joy to ride. It was definitely the most beginner friendly mainly because the throttle was smoothest and probably the most subdued of them all. It was also neither too big or too small, it felt well balanced and was comfortable.

I managed to drop the Kawasaki and break a clutch lever, and also dropped the Yamaha. If you 'ain't crashin', you 'ain't tryin'.

Was a great day really, with no hidden agenda. All the staff seemed to be totally honest and unbias about their competitors bikes, and the aim of the day was fun and there was zero emphasis on sales. In many respects the enjoyment of riding the bikes spoke for itself, and I fully intend in due course to get myself a cheap enduro bike for greenlaning. Would thoroughly recommend.
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 09 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:57 - 09 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha the less encouragement I get to buy an enduro bike the better.

It's all I can do to stop myself buying one!
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 09 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

buy one, road bikes suck and are boring
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 09 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked at this, but everywhere was too far away for me to bother. Shame, could have learnt some decent technique.

Sounds like it was a good day out.

I few months ago I did a few old Dakar trails around Morocco, this would have been perfect before leaving.
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 09 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one, looks like an absolute blast. I'd like to give gripped + sorted offroading a quick try, but we have no green lanes up here and the "local" private land outfit is asking multiple hundred monies for a day of playing. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 09 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep thinking about doing one of these days, I suck offroad, well no. I think I have levelled up from suck to quite bad/not very good. Laughing

Get a CRF!

You know you want to.
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 09 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing I would very much like to do is learn not to utterly shit myself when either end of my motorcycle looses traction even a little bit.

Seems like just the ticket.
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wonder if these big companies actively promote the retention of green lanes.

Because when i owned an EXC a few years ago, more and more green lanes were being downgraded.

Its all well and good KTM and others saying people should ride more off road, but have you tried to find places to ride?
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fladdem wrote:
Get a CRF!

You know you want to.


Just do it Thumbs Up

Plenty of road registered CRF250s out there. I am actually seriously considering one as a second bike.
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PostPosted: 09:49 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
One thing I would very much like to do is learn not to utterly shit myself when either end of my motorcycle looses traction even a little bit.

Seems like just the ticket.


I did the MORE last year. The day after doing the MORE I did a Bike Safe day with the Thames Valley Police. Part of the ride was in biblical rain and the front had a couple of moments on standing water - I was definitely more relaxed about it because of what I had done just the day before.
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

rubyhorse2 wrote:

Its all well and good KTM and others saying people should ride more off road, but have you tried to find places to ride?

KTM etc are more focused on enduros - there's generally plenty around the place, with options for practices if you're lucky.
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm loving my gas gas , it may only do 50ish without pushing it but its far more fun than my busa or any other bike i've had .

i've been going offroad with my textiles with waterproof & thermal linings in , not fun bloody roasting & end up soaked in sweat ..

i've finally bought enduro trousers , shirt & gloves all gas gas which are all far to bright & loud but fk it ... i'm not sure if i have to bottle to wear the gear riding down my street !

i was on a motocross track for the 1st time a few weeks ago & even did a jump although only because i didn't know there was a jump on the track & it was to late to brake so i had no choice Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did this a couple of years back about three weeks after passing my test, so I'd only ridden on my lessons! It was well worthwhile in terms of learning machine control but bloody exhausting.
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is touring on an enduro bike a good idea? at least over 250, I know a touring bike is officially meant for touring but if you've seen some of the roads in eastern europe they kind of resemble a motocross track, a badly maintained one none the less
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

rubyhorse2 wrote:
i wonder if these big companies actively promote the retention of green lanes.

Because when i owned an EXC a few years ago, more and more green lanes were being downgraded.

Its all well and good KTM and others saying people should ride more off road, but have you tried to find places to ride?


Most green lanes are rubbish though. Sure we need to keep what we have and try and open more if possible, but most just go in a straight line for a kilometre or so. That's not really going to improve your skills.

The problem with off roading in the UK is that all land is owned by someone and there are restrictions on most of it.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

A competition enduro bike? Not a great idea - though with extra oil capacity some do it.

Something like the 'KTM 690 enduro', which is actually a trail bike (similar to a DRZ400, but with getting on for twice the power) makes a lot more sense - I've gone around Europe on mine, including some reasonable off-road.

If I wasn't planning for off road fun, I probably wouldn't bother however - see what people have done on R1s - around the world, the Erzberg prologue and across frozen sea in the Arctic.
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went on this a couple of years ago, it was fantastic fun and I really enjoyed myself. Back then it was only £15 and I must have spent a good couple of hours in the seat, which was storming good value.

I agree with what others have said, it was very helpful to learn how to react to a bike when there isn't much traction, and it's something that I've brought back to my road riding.

I'd recommend it to anyone... the MORE events are great. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't help themselves with their locations though.

Take up would be better if they were spread more evenly around the country.

Of course then you either need plenty of BOATs or some accommodating farmers.
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