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Pete.
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 11 Jul 2015    Post subject: How to remove compression adjuster from fork bottom? Reply with quote

Anyone know how these things are removed usually?
I got a bit happy with the throttle and stood the bike up vertical. Had to get out of it pretty sharpish and it came down with so much force it blew the adjuster clean out of the fork leg. Now I have to make a new adjuster but to do that I need to get the other one out so I can copy it but I don't know how they are removed (without the use of extreme hydraulic pressure).

Anyone know the answer?
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 11 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks exactly the same as my GSX1400.

Towards the top of the photo you can see a section which comes in from the side of the fork ... this is usually a pressed in collar with a spring and a ball bearing sitting behind it, with the bearing pressed against the adjuster to provide the 'click' as you turn it.

I had to drill the collar on my forks and then make a new one out of a bit of brass.

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PostPosted: 22:17 - 11 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might be able to put the short end of an allen key down the adjuster hole and insert it into the collar hole ... if you can then you might be able to push the collar out and reuse it.

You still have the problem of sourcing a new spring/ball bearing!

All the best ... Barry
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 11 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Barry Thumbs Up

I've managed to pull the collar out and also extracted the one from the good fork releasing the adjuster. They are un-damaged so I can re-use them but I need a new bearing ball as that one was blown out with the adjuster.
I'll follow-up with a how-to so that others can benefit.
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 11 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so here's how it's done:

First, centre-punch and drill the back of the detent spring holder with a drill of 3.2-3.5mm. This will release the spring and ball.

https://peterrimmer.myby.co.uk/images/comp_adjust1.jpg

Now tap the steel holder for M4

https://peterrimmer.myby.co.uk/images/comp_adjust2.jpg

Make an extractor using a M4 bolt, a washer and a short piece of tube (a hollow dowel in this case) and pull the tube out of the leg bottom.

https://peterrimmer.myby.co.uk/images/comp_adjust3.jpg

Now the adjuster is free to be wound out of the leg bottom.

https://peterrimmer.myby.co.uk/images/comp_adjust4.jpg

The thread on the adjuster is M12 x 1mm by the way.
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PostPosted: 08:31 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent ... glad my posts made sense to you.

Even better, pics to show everyone how to take it apart Thumbs Up

All the best ... Barry
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today's mission - Make one of these suckers...
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

All done.

Cut basic shape, then moved to metric lathe to cut the thread. Test-fit then cut the detent grooves. Finally put a slot in the end for adjustment.

https://peterrimmer.myby.co.uk/images/comp_adjust5.jpg

https://peterrimmer.myby.co.uk/images/comp_adjust6.jpg

https://peterrimmer.myby.co.uk/images/comp_adjust7.jpg

https://peterrimmer.myby.co.uk/images/comp_adjust8.jpg

Just got to make new detent ball sockets.
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Somebody has a lot of toys and knows how to use them ... very impressive Thumbs Up

I managed to pick up a Naerok lathe ... working great until some metal chips got into the motor (chip guard missing)!

The induction motor was making quite a humming noise ... so stripped, cleaned and all put back together ... runs without humming noise now, but gets extremely hot after 30 seconds Sad

Looks like I need a new motor Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 20:01 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Naerok 9x18 is quite handy given it's light weight and small size. A bonus is that they do metric and imperial threads which neither of my lathes can do. I had to machine this part on one lathe and cut the thread on another.
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PostPosted: 05:46 - 13 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: How to remove compression adjuster from fork bottom? Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:
Pete. wrote:
it came down with so much force it blew the adjuster clean out of the fork leg.


What did it do...just rip the threads off?


I guess it must have - I just lost all the oil in one go. Thought I'd holed the sump as a matter of fact. That adjuster had long since seized and with three turns of very fine thread there's a chance it might have picked up and already torn. We'll never know.
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PostPosted: 07:49 - 13 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your skills are insane. Seriously gifted there! Nice work. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:31 - 13 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you know how amazing that is to us meer mortals. The fact you can go "I need to make this complicated shape out of metal" then, bish bash bosh done. 99% of us on here would have been looking for S/H forks. I'll always be in awe for that ability.
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 13 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have definitely gone for a new fork leg, I've seen you fabricate magical tools to fix things that need one off tools but this is another level.
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 13 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
I'd have definitely gone for a new fork leg, I've seen you fabricate magical tools to fix things that need one off tools but this is another level.



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