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PostPosted: 23:37 - 11 Jul 2015    Post subject: Dozy Telesales Girl at Bennetts Reply with quote

44 years after last riding a motorbike, I went out and bought myself another one. Nothing too racy or pretentious: a Honda CD200 Benly, almost a classic.

So yesterday I went on the interweb to get it insured and ended up with Bennetts. Big name, bike specialists, must know what they're talking about. On filling out their online form I found that it insisted on writing "CBT: passed", and there was no way to change it. So I phoned up and explained that the CBT wasn't even a twinkle in a Whitehall bureaucrat's eye when I passed my test. "Well," she said, "In that case you're only allowed to ride a 50cc moped." "WHAAAAAT!!!!" This could rather spoil my whole project. I pointed out that I have an A category licence but she repeated over and over that I would have to limit myself to a 50cc moped until I went through the full learning and testing process.

The telephone conversation ended fairly abruptly after that and with a combined sense of almost-confidence and trepidation I jumped onto the DVLA website. Sure enough, my licence covers me for all motorbikes, cars, small trucks, minbuses, you-name-it, although I'm a little disappointed to find that with the new (about 20 years ago) licences I seem to no longer be covered to drive a traction engine or road roller.

So unfortunately this deluded girl has lost Bennetts a customer. Meanwhile I moved down the comparethemeerkat list to the next reputable company and bought my insurance there. It cost me a whole £1 more for the year, but at least they didn't quibble over my licence.
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 11 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:12 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

InB4 79(tri).
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PostPosted: 00:54 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Odd.
I started using Bennets (online, no calls) last September after Footpad James pissed me off and had no problems with my long held license.

Perhaps having had consistent bike insurance for years made a difference but I don't recall any CBT questions, just the usual 'how long have you held your license?' type thing.
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
InB4 79(tri).


Indeed... is there any chance that the OP will put a scan of the rear of his driving license up for our perusal? Or shall we wait for the "my insurance won't pay out as they reckon I've not got a license" thread?
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: Dozy Telesales Girl at Bennetts Reply with quote

TrapezeArtist wrote:

So unfortunately this deluded girl has lost Bennetts a customer. Meanwhile I moved down the comparethemeerkat list to the next reputable company and bought my insurance there. It cost me a whole £1 more for the year, but at least they didn't quibble over my licence.


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PostPosted: 12:47 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

matto wrote:
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InB4 79(tri).


Indeed... is there any chance that the OP will put a scan of the rear of his driving license up for our perusal? Or shall we wait for the "my insurance won't pay out as they reckon I've not got a license" thread?


No chance of me putting a scan of my licence on the web. BUT the motorcycle bit of my licence is A. Not AM, not A1 and not A2. According to DVLA I am licenced to ride "motorbikes with a power output more than 35kW or a power to weight ratio more than 0.2kW/kg".

Only Bennetts had a problem with that. Swinton seem to understand what A means, so I have no concerns about "my insurance won't pay out as they reckon I've not got a license".
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
InB4 79(tri).


????????
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

TrapezeArtist wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
InB4 79(tri).


????????


The new licence for Trikes is A with the qualficiation of 79(Tri)

A lot of people now think they have a full bike licence all of a sudden when all they actually have is grandfather rights to ride a trike because of when they passed their car test.
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:
Odd.
I started using Bennets (online, no calls) last September after Footpad James pissed me off and had no problems with my long held license.

Perhaps having had consistent bike insurance for years made a difference but I don't recall any CBT questions, just the usual 'how long have you held your license?' type thing.


I think it started off as a conflict of data between the meerkat lot and Bennetts. If I remember rightly, the box for number of years licence held only went up to 20+ on the compare.etc site. I imagine that got passed to Bennetts and they interpreted it as only 20 years. (Did the CBT come on more than 20 years ago?) Their form then showed "CBT passed: Yes" and there was no way to change it. Being wary of insurance companies finding excuses to dodge a claim, I wasn't going to submit a form with something untrue on it, even if it was irrelevant. So I phoned Bennett's 0800 number and that was when I met their Sales Prevention Officer.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
The new licence for Trikes is A with the qualficiation of 79(Tri)

A lot of people now think they have a full bike licence all of a sudden when all they actually have is grandfather rights to ride a trike because of when they passed their car test.


Fair enough, I know there was an old issue of people driving 3 wheeled "cars" on a motorcycle licence, but I'm not interested in trikes in any form. I have an A licence because I passed my motorcycle test. I have a B licence because I passed a car test.
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
InB4 79(tri).

As his post starts "44 years after last riding a motorbike", on the face of it this one appears to be in the right.
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

TrapezeArtist wrote:

No chance of me putting a scan of my licence on the web


Just the back of it, there's no personal details on there at all.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: bennets Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 16:40 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: Dozy Telesales Girl at Bennetts Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
TrapezeArtist wrote:

So unfortunately this deluded girl has lost Bennetts a customer. Meanwhile I moved down the comparethemeerkat list to the next reputable company and bought my insurance there. It cost me a whole £1 more for the year, but at least they didn't quibble over my licence.


No awaits to find out this is McE Laughing


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PostPosted: 16:42 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: bennets Reply with quote

almostthere wrote:
Honda Benly almost a classic Laughing Laughing Laughing


Technically it already is classed as a classic with regards to insurance.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

TrapezeArtist wrote:
Fair enough, I know there was an old issue of people driving 3 wheeled "cars" on a motorcycle licence, but I'm not interested in trikes in any form. I have an A licence because I passed my motorcycle test. I have a B licence because I passed a car test.


No they weren't. They were driving a three wheeler because they had a B1 entitlement, you have never been able to drive a three wheeler with an A entitlement of any sort.

This is the problem, people get confused between "driving license" and "entitlement".
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarmacsurfer wrote:
No they weren't. They were driving a three wheeler because they had a B1 entitlement, you have never been able to drive a three wheeler with an A entitlement of any sort.

This is the problem, people get confused between "driving license" and "entitlement".


I can't disagree with your point about confusion. Have a look at https://www.gov.uk/old-driving-licence-categories to get yourself really confused. And that page only covers licences issued after 1976; my motorcycle licence was issued in 1969 and my car licence in 1970. In those days there was just a licence, never an "entitlement".

When I was a young stripling without even a bike licence, Reliant marketed their plastic pigs on the strength of being able to drive them on a motorcycle licence. Old codgers (like what I am now) who had a motorcycle licence from their youth but who didn't want to go through the hassle of taking a car test, bought a Reliant instead of (say) a Mini.

I even had a drive in a bubble car when I was 16, because my bike licence qualified me for it.
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

TrapezeArtist wrote:
Tarmacsurfer wrote:
No they weren't. They were driving a three wheeler because they had a B1 entitlement, you have never been able to drive a three wheeler with an A entitlement of any sort.

This is the problem, people get confused between "driving license" and "entitlement".


I can't disagree with your point about confusion. Have a look at https://www.gov.uk/old-driving-licence-categories to get yourself really confused. And that page only covers licences issued after 1976; my motorcycle licence was issued in 1969 and my car licence in 1970. In those days there was just a licence, never an "entitlement".

When I was a young stripling without even a bike licence, Reliant marketed their plastic pigs on the strength of being able to drive them on a motorcycle licence. Old codgers (like what I am now) who had a motorcycle licence from their youth but who didn't want to go through the hassle of taking a car test, bought a Reliant instead of (say) a Mini.

I even had a drive in a bubble car when I was 16, because my bike licence qualified me for it.


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PostPosted: 19:10 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

TrapezeArtist wrote:


No chance of me putting a scan of my licence on the web. BUT the motorcycle bit of my licence is A. Not AM, not A1 and not A2. According to DVLA I am licenced to ride "motorbikes with a power output more than 35kW or a power to weight ratio more than 0.2kW/kg".

Only Bennetts had a problem with that. Swinton seem to understand what A means, so I have no concerns about "my insurance won't pay out as they reckon I've not got a license".


I have the same entitlement. I passed my test by being observed performing various left/right/figure of eight blocks by a bloke on foot with me on a 250 long before all of the CBT/Theory/Mod1/Mod2/limited licence nonsense. Razz Laughing

I've never had an issue with any insurers though.
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 12 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Island, I'm quite sure there shouldn't be any issue with insurers: that's why I was surprised by the Bennetts girl and thought it was worth commenting on.

You describe my test to a tee: going round and round a short circuit of streets with him popping up in different places each time and then stepping out into the road to test my emergency stop (brave man!). Part way through I misunderstood his directions and got lost for a while, but he passed me anyway.
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 13 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was just about to leave the house to go and bang a 10/10hbb when i saw this thread...
Texted the girl i was meeting and cancelled, she leaves to go back to uni tomorrow but i dont care.
Copied your story, pasted it into a word document. Saved one copy to laptop, one to a USB drive, and one to an SSD.
Wrapped the SSD in bubble wrap, went out and purchased a safe. Put the SSD in the safe then went in my back garden. Built a bomb shelter in the ground complete with protein bars and water. Placed the safe in the shelter, then build an electric fence around it. Installed an alarm inside and locked up the shelter.
Just finished installing 24 hour CCTV in 1080p overlooking the shelter and will observe the footage every night to make sure no one tries to break in. There is no chance in hell anyone is taking that post away from me. Thanks op, my life is now complete.
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 13 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

EazyDuz wrote:
Was just about to leave the house to go and bang a 10/10hbb when i saw this thread...
Texted the girl i was meeting and cancelled, she leaves to go back to uni tomorrow but i dont care.
Copied your story, pasted it into a word document. Saved one copy to laptop, one to a USB drive, and one to an SSD.
Wrapped the SSD in bubble wrap, went out and purchased a safe. Put the SSD in the safe then went in my back garden. Built a bomb shelter in the ground complete with protein bars and water. Placed the safe in the shelter, then build an electric fence around it. Installed an alarm inside and locked up the shelter.
Just finished installing 24 hour CCTV in 1080p overlooking the shelter and will observe the footage every night to make sure no one tries to break in. There is no chance in hell anyone is taking that post away from me. Thanks op, my life is now complete.


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