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PostPosted: 17:24 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: How do you guys tour? Reply with quote

Just wanted to do some research before I prepare to tour, specifically going across to the continent, I'm not sure what bike I'm going to do it on yet or how far I'm going to go, but it'd be good to hear some related experiences of using EU breakdown cover

how does it work? or are most problems you've encountered a roadside fix, has anyone toured on a 125 and is it advisable? maybe a bike you're prepared to ditch if something goes completely wrong, or has it always been easy enough to find a garage?
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, you may not breakdown..Now that's a thought. Wink

Read the FAQ in this section, and The Useful links section has some..... links. Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 17:52 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's Europe not the 3rd world. Except there are mechanics in the 3rd world too.

Simply don't ride to your absolute limits and be wary.
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah thats true, as long as you take an emergency 500 euros for repairs I'd imagine you'd be okay and at least in 3rd world countries repairs will be less costly
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not pay for breakdown cover that will recover you back to the UK in the event that you breakdown abroad?

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PostPosted: 18:15 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

james1988 wrote:
Why not pay for breakdown cover that will recover you back to the UK in the event that you breakdown abroad?

James


There is a sponsored link here about insurance for £3 a day or something which will do just that. That's pretty good TBH.
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds pretty cheap for full recovery, I'm assuming the price goes up quite substantially if you add the Vladivostok option to the premium
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would probably look to ADAC.

When I did go I still had KTM cover.

They paid for a (cheap) flight home for me and for the bike to get back separately. Worked out ok, though didn't get quite the trip I originally wanted.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpine45 wrote:
Sounds pretty cheap for full recovery, I'm assuming the price goes up quite substantially if you add the Vladivostok option to the premium


It was for EU only. But shipping from Vladivostok isn't all that expensive. You can get a ferry to Japan or S Korea and stick it on a cargo ship like I did.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow that sounds like an incredible journey, I think I'm going to stick to riding around France and Germany a few times before I tackle the Siberian wilderness.
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: How do you guys tour? Reply with quote

Alpine45 wrote:
Just wanted to do some research........ has anyone toured on a 125 and is it advisable?


People have riden back to Blighty all the way from Aus on a postie bike (110cc)
Some old git rode from Blighty to Egypt and back on an old BSA Bantam.
I seem to remember that there was even an article about a fellow doing LE-to-JOG on a Chinese 125 a while back.
So I think it can be done Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah as long as you take the scenic country road route with the 125 its pretty good, I just don't like being stuck on a dual carriageway at high revs barely making the speed limit.

Another reason I mentioned using a 125 is that the fuel economy is great and also the engines are comparatively more simple, usually single cylinder as opposed to twins and inline fours. I'm not an expert in bike mechanics but I think this is definitely an added bonus despite the obvious drawbacks. Easier to fix, less oil topping up etc
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brave on a 125 but not entirely out the question. It would be the inevitable motorway stints u have to do that would piss me off.

My best advice would be to not go alone, it's more of an adventure then and uve got company if the shit hits the fan.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ultimately I'd rather do it on a bigger bike, but I wouldn't want to be stuck on a motorway either way, I'm from the south west and would much rather ride the A303 or A35 to London than take the M5/M4, just to give you an example.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpine45 wrote:
Yeah as long as you take the scenic country road route with the 125 its pretty good, I just don't like being stuck on a dual carriageway at high revs barely making the speed limit.


Then do what I do and use a 250 Thumbs Up
Big bikes are brilliant for touring and carry your luggage with ease at a fair old lick, so motorways are not and issue, BUT??? meh! not for me.

I like my 250 , it`s easy to ride, fuel economy is good, and I feel I`ve met a challenge when I get there Smile
Not everybody`s cup of tea , but hey it does it for me.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: How do you guys tour? Reply with quote

Also smaller bikes, push bikes, running and walking - so whatever you want.

Personally, if choosing a bike I'd want the riding to be a part of it, so wouldn't be choosing something too slow.

If I didn't care about the riding, I'd go for a cheap to run hatchback and have a bed set up in there. At 56mph behind trucks I've got triple figure economy. Less hassle with more stuff easily accessible.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alpine45 wrote:
Ultimately I'd rather do it on a bigger bike, but I wouldn't want to be stuck on a motorway either way, I'm from the south west and would much rather ride the A303 or A35 to London than take the M5/M4, just to give you an example.



Or just take the Plymouth Santander ferry?

Saves all that riding to Dover and through France and all.
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 3 route options for a first European motorcycle trip would be,

Plymouth-Roscoff-Calais-Dover

Plymouth-Roscoff-Santander-Plymouth

Or I may go to Amsterdam or Berlin, familiar places that I've been to before but I would probably ride to Dover as the P and O ferry is cheaper than the Brittany ferry.
G wrote:

If I didn't care about the riding, I'd go for a cheap to run hatchback and have a bed set up in there. At 56mph behind trucks I've got triple figure economy. Less hassle with more stuff easily accessible.


I'd definitely consider that in the winter, but really I enjoy riding bikes just about equally as much as I like travelling
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: How do you guys tour? Reply with quote

Alpine45 wrote:
has anyone toured on a 125 and is it advisable? maybe a bike you're prepared to ditch if something goes completely wrong, or has it always been easy enough to find a garage?


Back in the '80's I was a volunteer teacher/vaccination team member in Ghana, West Africa for three years (Peace Corps, about like your VSO's).

A couple of guys in our group who were issue street-legal Kawasaki (??) 125cc dirt bikes based upon their job description, at the close of their service bought their motorcycles from the Peace Corps and rode from Ghana to the North African Mediterranean Coast via Timbuktu.

So it can be done.

Having toured quite a lot over here, on bikes as small as a 550cc, this biggest reservation I'd have about a 125 would be is it big enough to carry my gear?

Other than that its a given that at Motorway speeds you'd be out of your league.

Incidentally the COOLEST bike I have ever seen was a white Yamaha XT500 street-legal thumper. I was waiting to catch a bus in a hot and dusty lorry park somewhere in Ghana when this guy from Holland came riding through, scattering the chickens and goats.

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PostPosted: 20:55 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
It's Europe not the 3rd world. Except there are mechanics in the 3rd world too.

Simply don't ride to your absolute limits and be wary.


This. My first time back on a bike since my das 3 months earlier was in France where I met my new ride. Enjoyed punting through the villages finding somewhere different for lunch. I had a credit card in my pocket and I felt that's all was needed if it came on top (even left my phone behind that day, missus wasn't impressed)

The most I worried about was making a balls up tying my bike to the deck on the ferry, but when I told the loadie and the two other guys next to me that it was my first time they couldn't help me enough! (Probably to keep their own bikes from being taken out but heyho)
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been taking bikes to Europe since the seventies and the worst that has happened is a blown fuse. Modern bikes are very reliable and if you make sure all is in order before you go then the chances are you'll have a trouble free trip. Assuming your using tubeless tyres then maybe take a plug kit and small compressor should you get a puncture. Given a choice I would rather go on a larger capacity bike than a tiddler - a lot less stress on the bike and a lot more options on routes. Motorways aren't the best way to see anything but there's been many times where I've just wanted to cover miles quickly and a big bike on unlimited Autobahns does just that.

Enjoy however you choose to do it Wink
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