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HardDriver
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Kawasaki kmx 125 electronic problem Reply with quote

Hi to all again. Long time no post it here, but I came with problem. My bike broke up.

Everything happen than I was driving back home and my bike suddenly stopped (engine turned off). I tried to make it run again, but in kickstart or if I pushed in gear nothing happen. But I must say that if I tried to start with kickstart without gas and choke my bike for 3 seconds was running low rpm (1000 I think). ALSO, there is compression, kickstart move not easily, and also we tried to put finger on hole where spark plug sits Very Happy, we can't hold finger.

I tried to clean carburettor, change new spark plug iridium, put it in cylinder some gasoline (no results). But bike have spark, blue I think, i put it spark near cylinder and few times tried to start engine, there was.

After some calls to dudes who repair motorcycles said that a lot of procents that cdi is broke up. This week I found information that I think almost the same problem happen like me to another guy who have kmx 125. He said that was something wrong with generator windings.

And also, kawasaki kmx 125 original cdi was LIMITER or not? Also how much I need to change piston and rings (in kilometers). And why we need to change piston, if I change only rings than compression will be again good, yes? So whats happen to piston? And about cylinder, after piston and rings rebuild don't need to do some kinda methods to prepare him or I don't know how to say in english Very Happy.


I really counting on you guys. Need your wisdom what to do Very Happy.



With best regards,
HardDriver.


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PostPosted: 14:01 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

" there is compression, kickstart move not easily, and also we tried to put finger on hole where spark plug sits Very Happy, we can't hold finger."

Right, you have some compression

"But bike have spark, blue I think, "

and a spark too by the sound of it

"After some calls to dudes who repair motorcycles said that a lot of procents that cdi is broke up"

If the CDI has failed, its unlikely you'd get any spark

"This week I found information that I think almost the same problem happen like me to another guy who have kmx 125. He said that was something wrong with generator windings"

Again, if the source coils or pulser failed it's unlikely you'd get a spark.

Put the plug back in and try to start with choke
If it doesn't start, remove the plug and see if it's dry or wet

Generally speaking:
If it's dry you have a fuel problem
If it's wet you have an ignition problem
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

But what about that part then I put gasoline in cylinder a little bit, then I put again spark plug and tryed to start (couldn't start).
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh
Just realised a KMX125 is a stinky stroke
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stinky - yes. But from 125 I personally choose 2 stroke because they are a lot faster.
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kick the bike over a few times with the plug out to clear the cylinder
then
clean the plug and try to start it normally
then
inspect the plug
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will try that, but I still don't get it why bike won't start when I drop some gasoline in cylinder? Whats wrong there?
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any ideas?
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 10 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

HardDriver wrote:
Stinky - yes. But from 125 I personally choose 2 stroke because they are a lot faster.


Only when they are running though, which isn't as often as a four stroke! Wink

You should really do a compression test, to make sure that what feels like enough compression is actually enough. You want to see 110-170psi approx.

Your problem does sound ignition related though, especially if the bike stopped suddenly when hot.

It's possible to have a faulty coil, or the windings breaking down with heat/age. It would be the second thing I would try after a new plug, if you have intermittent sparks. The HT lead is part of the coil so changing it eliminates the cap and lead too.

Piston and rings along with small end bearing and all gaskets should be replaced together, don't bother changing rings on their own, the piston wears more than the rings and so do the ring locating pegs etc.
After 16'000km maximum I would say to do this, but an abused motor might need a re-build sooner, and could seize at much less mileage especially if it's been overheated or messed with, or run on crap oil etc.
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 14 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: Kawasaki kmx 125 electronic problem Reply with quote

HardDriver wrote:


I really counting on you guys. Need your wisdom what to do Very Happy.


Have you tried bump starting it?
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 15 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

THANK YOU GUYS for your comments. Found that problem was an crankshaft gland (from magnet side). Because bike is starting but if I little bit throttle it's starting to choke.

I'm just wanting to know how much need to turn out the mixture bolt after full screw in?

Also. What should I know (specific) about engine unravelling?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 15 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

HardDriver wrote:
Found that problem was an crankshaft gland


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PostPosted: 19:58 - 15 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then crankshaft collar?
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 15 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

HardDriver wrote:


Also. What should I know (specific) about engine unravelling?

Thanks.


I not understanding.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 16 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okey. I don't know how to say in english these things, but I will try my best. So, those rubber which crankshaft have, if one of them is failed then motorcycle rpm will be high or it will burn oil or like me. I can't throttle my bike, because of that rubber (it's in theory what happened to engine). If that rubber fail, it sucks air from magnet side.

So I think I explained. But please tell me answers to my previous questions.
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 16 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crank seal?
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 16 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah. That one.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 16 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

HardDriver wrote:


So I think I explained. But please tell me answers to my previous questions.


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