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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 08:46 - 16 Jul 2015    Post subject: Help labour elect a real reformer for once Reply with quote

Tired of Labour fronting some middle of the road milquetoast Tweedle Dum mouthwhore of a leader who can't even win a debate against a pop tart?

Want a return to the good old days of announcing that we'll squeeze anyone daft enough to work "until the pips squeak"?

Reckon that a 71 year old dirty-old-man-looking proud pinko and friend of Hamas and Hezbollah is just what we need to ensure the right result in the next general election?

Well, for just £3, you, me or anyone can sign up and vote in their leadership contest.

I pretty much consider it my civic duty to ensure that they pick the right (well, the left) candidate. Wink
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 16 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, are they just trolling us, or are they really dim impassioned enough to believe that the problem with Milibland was that he wasn't enough of a communist to get the red vote out?

Who do they imagine those hypothetical voters went with instead? Thinking
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's funny is that various left-wing people I know are all for this as a 'solution' for the country - which nicely makes my point when I suggest they don't work in our reality.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chuka Amunna is who I'd like to see get in, that will pretty much guarantee their failure next time too.
BUT, he's withdrawn as he didn't like his family being under the spotlight (Read - because he knows
deep down they are going to fail again and he doesn't want to be seen as the reason for that)
A career politician if I ever saw one.

It's a shame, he speaks quite well. If he were to allow himself, he'd make a good Tory I reckon.

The New Statesman wrote:

In Labour’s internal battle over welfare, Umunna is one of the shadow cabinet ministers who sides unambiguously with Harman. “We know that the argument that we just wanted to spend more, borrow more, tax more got through. We know from research and polling that people were disturbed by our position vis-à-vis social security and felt that we were more keen on helping those who didn’t want to work than those who were in work. But he says he supports the household benefit cap, which the Conservatives plan to reduce from £26,000 to £20,000 (£23,000 in London), not for tactical reasons but because it is “right”.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him defect to the Conservatives after Labours next fail.
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

grr666 wrote:
Chuka Amunna is who I'd like to see get in

Pravda were gushing over the prospect, such a disappointment when he bowed out.

I'm guessing that there's a few - I'm so sorry - black sheep hiding in his family.

He's certainly - help I can't stop - selling Labour down the river at the moment.
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 18 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waste of £3. I can vote UKIP for free.
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PostPosted: 01:37 - 18 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stick them all in a house for a month and vote them out one by one. Maybe set a weekly challenge and food budget? That's how your typical Labour voter works right?

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PostPosted: 11:31 - 19 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: Help labour elect a real reformer for once Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Well, for just £3, you, me or anyone can sign up and vote in their leadership contest.

Or, maybe not.
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 19 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:


Who do they imagine those hypothetical voters went with instead? Thinking



It was actually closer than many imagine though. There is some research floating around on reddit which pretty much says if 10000 more Labour voters turned out. Tory would have a minority government. If 15000 more turned out hung Parliament.

This for example is a nearby town.

Con 18,970
Lab 18,592
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 19 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: Help labour elect a real reformer for once Reply with quote

Raffles wrote:

Well, Daily Mail, but...

A Labour spokesman wrote:
All registered supporters must be verified against the Electoral Register and will only receive a vote if they support the aims and values of the Labour Party.


...does ring true.

Bloody proles, we gave you a chance to act like adults and pick the middle-of-the-road inoffensive waffler, that plastic faced Cambridge old boy, right-on-chap and housewive's favourite Bambi Burnham.

But ohhh no, you think you can vote for a candidate who actually represents your real views? You ungrateful scum, know your place.
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 19 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: Help labour elect a real reformer for once Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

A Labour spokesman wrote:
All registered supporters must be verified against the Electoral Register and will only receive a vote if they support the aims and values of the Labour Party.




But ohhh no, you think you can vote for a candidate who actually represents your real views? You ungrateful scum, know your place.


Quick lets get them to reintroduce clause 4.
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 19 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So say corbyn does get in

I imagine he'll stand down now or be ousted long before 2020, bonum commune communitatis, in favour of some slimy mandroid like Burnham. Still, it'd be a laugh in the meantime, which is really all that Westminster is good for now.
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 19 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of people voted SNP because the SNP successfully promoted themselves as left of labour. There was no such alternative on the left in England apart from TUSK which is not developed enough to pose any threat. The problem for labour is there might be a lot of votes to get back if the go to the left but they risk losing the softie left middle class vote.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 22 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ultimate irony.

T.Blair claiming a more left leaning Labour party would have no "credibilty".
Coming from a, two faced, fork tongued, egotist with as much "credibility" as a chocolate fireguard! Oh dear! Rolling Eyes
Obviously reads and digests way too much of his own PR.
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PostPosted: 08:52 - 23 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, he buried us so deep in personal and national debt that it's proving almost impossible to claw our way out. I'm making a note here, huge success.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 23 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Corbyn does win the leadership contest, the 2020 election is probably decided before the dust has settled from the 2015 election. I wonder if Osborne will let Boris in his cabinet?
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 23 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Iglesias wrote:
He is the most successful labour leader of recent times...


He's still a cnut!
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