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chupacabra
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Cheapest way to pass DSA Reply with quote

Hello All,
I'm planning to pass DSA this summer and I've been wondering what would be the best way for me to do it. I've been riding Vespa 125cc in London for 4 years now, I've had full driving licence for 15 years since I was 17. I want to do the full motorbike licence by October or I will have to renew my CBT. I already finished reading 3 books; "Official DSA Guide To Riding, Essential Skills", "Official Highway Code" and "Know Your Traffic Signs" and I'm going to do the theory test next week.
My question is; in my case, how many days course should I take? I'm on the very tight budget now and I would like to spend as little as possible. I've seen that 2 days course is around £450, 3 days - £550, 4 days £730 and 5 days is £830.
My only concern is that I don't have experience riding geared bike, so I'm thinking about renting a geared motorbike for £150 a week, practise on it for one week and than maybe take 2 days course. Or maybe once I feel comfortable using manual gear I could just go straight to exam?
Is it worth paying for geared bike and practise or shall I just go for the course? How many days course would you recommend for me? Or maybe I should take just couple of lessons with an instructor?
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: Cheapest way to pass DSA Reply with quote

chupacabra wrote:
. I've seen that 2 days course is around £450, 3 days - £550,




My only concern is that I don't have experience riding geared bike, so I'm thinking about renting a geared motorbike for £150 a week, practise on it for one week and than maybe take 2 days course.


Thread is titled cheapest way. OP is considering renting a bike and learning himself before going onto a 2 day DAS at an extra £50 in total by the time you consider bike hire.

How about call your local riding school and chat with them. Ask yourself a question, would it be easier having a qualified instructor teaching you gears or hiring a bike and figuring it out yourself? We do gears on a CBT and it tales no more than 20 minutes.
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea, chap or chapette. We haven't seen you ride.

I'm with pinky. Unless you're planning to do the 'A' tests on your own big bike (possible but very problematic) then find a training school and get assessed.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: Cheapest way to pass DSA Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:

We do gears on a CBT and it tales no more than 20 minutes.


So I'm assuming it's not worth renting a geared bike to practise if it's so easy.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
No idea, chap or chapette. We haven't seen you ride.

I'm with pinky. Unless you're planning to do the 'A' tests on your own big bike (possible but very problematic) then find a training school and get assessed.


I'm a dude. I'm leaning towards 2 days course, without renting the bike. I guess if 2 days is not enough I can always take some extra lessons
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Re: Cheapest way to pass DSA Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:





How about call your local riding school and chat with them..


Just in case you missed it the first time. Speaking from experience we would not offer you a choice for you to chose. As you have never ridden gears before our standard would be a 4 day course. Day one would make sure you are familiar with the gears on a 125 on the pad, and on the road for a spell before doing the big bike conversion.

Our 4 day would be flexible though. If you managed to pick the gears up easily it would normally end up in reassessing the DAS course and having it reduced to 3 days.

The reason for this is simple. Money. It will cost you a lot of money either way. but we will not send you for test unless we are sure you have a good chance to pass.

Or another idea is ask your local schools if they do a geared conversion and while they are doing that ask them to assess you and give you an idea of how much training they think you will need. We offer a geared conversion which takes about 2 hours and we include a road ride to make sure you are OK.
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^
Note that pinky represents the best of instructors. Shop around, don't settle for some shouty rageaholic.
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did pass my CBT on geared bike and I didn't have any problems with it. Like I said I'm on the tight budget so I don't want to pay more than necessary and I really don't want to pay more than it's necessary.
I feel very confident on the road so I don't think I will need to pay almost £300 for extra 2 days.
I think I will go to the learning centre where I passed my CBT and see what they say (probably they will be pushing me to take a longer course). I ask if they have that gear conversion course, if it's cheap I would be interested in it. Also I think I'm going to pass on renting a geared bike.
Thank you very much for your help Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best of luck. There's no universal right or wrong way, just the best way for you.

Actually, there's nothing stopping you from booking and sitting the tests on your scooter. The content is exactly the same, and it's the cheapest way to practise under actual test conditions.
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Actually, there's nothing stopping you from booking and sitting the tests on your scooter. The content is exactly the same, and it's the cheapest way to practise under actual test conditions.


What do you mean I can book and sit the test on my scooter?
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can, but you would be limited to automatic and 125cc.
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just passed mine after riding for 7 months on a CBT.
It took 1 assessment lesson 2hrs at £60.
1x mod 1 lesson @£60
Mod 1 test and bike hire - £65
Mod 2 test and bike hire - £135.
so total was £320.
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chupacabra wrote:
What do you mean I can book and sit the test on my scooter?

You. Can. Book. And. Sit. The. Tests. On. Your. Scooter.

It won't get you a worthwhile license, but for £15.50 you can try the module 1 test yourself, at the actual test centre. £75 buys a go at module 2. It's the exact same tests as you'll sit on an 'A' test bike. There's no requirement to have any training - just rock up and have a go.

If you're that confident that you can pass, why not demonstrate it? Then it'll just be a formality on a big geared bike.
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
chupacabra wrote:
What do you mean I can book and sit the test on my scooter?

If you're that confident that you can pass, why not demonstrate it? Then it'll just be a formality on a big geared bike.


I see, I didn't know that this is an option. If it didn't cost £100 I would consider it for a training.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 17 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

RE8ELD0G wrote:
I just passed mine after riding for 7 months on a CBT.
It took 1 assessment lesson 2hrs at £60.
1x mod 1 lesson @£60
Mod 1 test and bike hire - £65
Mod 2 test and bike hire - £135.
so total was £320.


Could you tell me what was on the assessment lesson? Was it done in a learning centre or with a private instructor?
Also; where did you rent the bike for the exam?
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PostPosted: 01:17 - 19 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find good DAS training school - that is the cheapest way.

For example:

https://www.facebook.com/ExcelerateMtc?fref=ts

There is no point to discuss on the forum how many days you will need, given the fact that only good intructor can answer that AFTER accessing you on a geared bike. You may be a natural and need only say 3 days training. Or not.

If you do not find decent school and intructors you will fail few times and will pay lot more money.

By the way there is a big difference between different schools bikes they will use for training and tests, which may make your training easier or not.

Try to find good school local to you with excellent feedback from previous riders.
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chupacabra
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 20 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:


By the way there is a big difference between different schools bikes they will use for training and tests, which may make your training easier or not.

Try to find good school local to you with excellent feedback from previous riders.


I think I'm going to book assessment session in the school where I did my CBT 2 years ago. They have a good feedback and I was happy with my CBT course.

But I'm still considering to do it the way like RE8ELDOG:
"I just passed mine after riding for 7 months on a CBT.
It took 1 assessment lesson 2hrs at £60.
1x mod 1 lesson @£60
Mod 1 test and bike hire - £65
Mod 2 test and bike hire - £135.
so total was £320."
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 20 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much would you get if you sold your Vespa? Would it provide enough cash to enable you to buy a geared 125? If so, then you could have your own geared 125 and gain the experience without paying to hire a bike.
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PostPosted: 01:33 - 21 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADAMH0 wrote:
How much would you get if you sold your Vespa? Would it provide enough cash to enable you to buy a geared 125? If so, then you could have your own geared 125 and gain the experience without paying to hire a bike.


Not much, less than £500.
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 21 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd do the 3 day course.
Cheaper option than faffing about renting a bike and then doing the 2 day.
But it might be best to save up more money because trying to do it cheap could end up costing you more money.
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 21 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

couldnt you do the gear refresh thing off road or private land ?
A mate must have a geared bike you can get your hand back in on.
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 21 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wednesday Biker wrote:
I'd do the 3 day course.
Cheaper option than faffing about renting a bike and then doing the 2 day.
But it might be best to save up more money because trying to do it cheap could end up costing you more money.


If I do 3 days course I will pay at least £550 (if I pass it the first time) and be probably better prepared and have better chance to pass the exam, but if I choose to take lessons with private instructor I may end up paying half of it. Or I can take the exam 2 more times and I still won't pay as much as for the 3 days course.
I still have time to think about it as I'm waiting for the new driving licence fromDVLA, because Einsteins from fixed penalty office lost my old licence Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 21 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

bugeye_bob wrote:
couldnt you do the gear refresh thing off road or private land ?
A mate must have a geared bike you can get your hand back in on.


I may actually do this.

Also; is the bike hire included in £15.50 (module 1) and £75 (module 2) cost of exam? If not; where I can hire a bike for a test?
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 21 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you'll need 3 days at it.
If you do 2 days and hire a bike for 150 it will cost 50 quid more.
If you have private lessons and get taken to the test centre its still going to cost you probably 350 with the test fees but you might not be as prepared.
The cheap way to do it is if you were at test standard already and needed no lessons, only a chaperone and bike hire.
Bike hire isn't included in the two fees £15 and £75.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 21 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

chupacabra wrote:
Like I said I'm on the tight budget so I don't want to pay more than necessary and I really don't want to pay more than it's necessary.


motorcycling is never gonna be cheap .. if you cannot afford the lessons how exactly do you propose to run a bike .. Thinking
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