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Pete.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 22 Jul 2015    Post subject: HID's, done right. Reply with quote

Check out the beam pattern on my bike's HID lights. Nice 'dip left' beam, halo on the road in front of the bike but none of that obnoxious bleeding of high-intensity light that most conversions have. Wish I knew where the kit came from.

I nearly never bought the bike because of the HID, but then I realised I could swap it for the standard light out of my crashed bike. Turns out I needn't have been bothered about it.
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 22 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The general consensus is that HIDs shoot the beam all over the place and blind people.

My CBR has exactly the same beam as your's Pete and is perfect to be seen easier and light up the road more.

Good to see a set of HIDs that are done right, might change a few peoples opinions of them!
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 22 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked into doing a retro fit of proper HID projectors on my Triumph, but in the end I decided it was far too much of a faff and fitting osram nightbreakers was a whole lot easier (albeit not as effective).
The xenons should only scatter light if they're in the wrong housing for the bulb. A proper projector set up should work brilliantly.
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 22 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've looked at a couple of options for my CBR1000rr, i'll probably end up buying a new headlight unit like so from china and dismantling it and fitting some projectors something like this so that I don't damage the origionals.

or buying something premade like this altho they're some mulah, they do do cheaper ones.
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 22 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had moderate success when I installed them in the ST2 but the headlamp lense meant I had to angle them and with a pillion it resulted in dazzling some vehicles. I removed them.

A word of caution. If your battery cannot keep the ballast charged the lights flicker and go out, they don't slowly dim like normal bulbs.
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 22 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

HT wrote:

A word of caution. If your battery cannot keep the ballast charged the lights flicker and go out, they don't slowly dim like normal bulbs.


Not much of a problem on my bike. The battery is enormous.
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 23 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You generally don't have a problem with HIDs in projector headlights as there's no way for the light to bleed out of the lens. If your lights are reflector headlights you might have the 'r' version which blacks out certain parts of the bulb to stop the horrible glare bleeding out

https://images.esellerpro.com/2726/I/231/57/lrgscaleh7h7r-500.jpg
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 23 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought they only worked with a projector lens? All the OEM bikes & cars I have seen them on all seem to have a projector lens.
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PostPosted: 09:41 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

It takes quite a bit of time and effort to setup after-market HID's correctly, and some people will try to tell you that light from an HID bulb obeys a different set of laws in physics - but it's mostly down to getting the postion of the light source in exactly the right spot.

I have had no problems with MOT's, but at the last one (October 2014) the MOT Tester told me that the law will be changing and aftermarket HID kits will no longer be allowed.
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont like them. Even factory fitted car HIDs will often get a blast of my high beam, but I assume the drivers have set the hight adjustment to maximum, and you cant blame technology for the cunts using it.


My CBR6 reflectors are brilliant, no need for hids Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most people simply buy the wrong lamp for their headlight type,
Using the incorrect type of lamp will give you the wrong pattern,
You use a R type lamp for a reflector type headlight and a S type lamp for a projector type,
https://www.oznium.com/images/projector_headlight_explain.jpg
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the law states for a car that it has to be self levelling & have washers... So shouldn't have any height adjust. Will find the link.
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is it I think:

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PostPosted: 21:07 - 27 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 regulate the situation in the UK. Under these Regulations, HID/Gas Discharge/Xenon headlamps are not mentioned and therefore they are not permitted according to the strict letter of the law


...and possibly because they weren't even available when the legislation was first drawn-up in 1987.

I can get away with going back to halogens in the Merc, but unfortunately, not on the bike.

The BA20D's that were fitted as standard are barely bright enough to read a map by, and do not iluminate anything beyond 10 feet on an unlit country road on a dark night. From experience, they do not allow me to be seen by other road users as I approach them either - so it will be a case of BA20D's for the MOT only, and something safe for everything else.
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