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Tracer1234
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Drift Camera Placement? Reply with quote

Hey all, bought a drift camera, where is the best place to mount it on a helmet?


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PostPosted: 20:56 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

The outside is popular.

What model, what are the mounts like, which helmet?
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mount mine on the side using the curved mount, or you could go full teletubby and mount it on the top.
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mines on the R/H side, below the pivot for the visor but forwards a bit.
Mic hard wired into lid, so a short run for the cable.
I used the curved mount, it's pretty robust.
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

(On a GoPro but) Curved mount on the right hand side.

I'm not sure what the drift is like but the hardest part about a helmet camera was getting it to shoot level and with a decent amount of what's in front of me, thankfully the GoPro can be adjusted on the 3 way pivot arm, drift is just a slide into the mount?

Might be worth getting some sample footage of a rough angle before you mount anything to the helmet, last thing you want is to watch the footage and find out it's recording the tank and handle bars and nothing in front of you, I did this with a flat mount and thankfully managed to get it removed, applied curved and then took a few days of changing angles before I got it right (GoPro).
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
(On a GoPro but) Curved mount on the right hand side.

I'm not sure what the drift is like but the hardest part about a helmet camera was getting it to shoot level and with a decent amount of what's in front of me, thankfully the GoPro can be adjusted on the 3 way pivot arm, drift is just a slide into the mount?

Might be worth getting some sample footage of a rough angle before you mount anything to the helmet, last thing you want is to watch the footage and find out it's recording the tank and handle bars and nothing in front of you, I did this with a flat mount and thankfully managed to get it removed, applied curved and then took a few days of changing angles before I got it right (GoPro).


You can rotate the lens and the angle of a drift Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the helmet a fair bit as Roger mentioned. If you have irregular curves and vents getting in the way it might not fit properly on many areas of the helmet even with a curved mount.

I would personally go for top-mounting it. It gives a higher and more central field of vision. Wind drag I don't think would be an issue with a Drift regardless to be honest; but if it was its going to be a problem, it'll be more of a 'pain in the neck' if one sides constantly being tugged.

In terms of specifically where to mount it - test it out a lot before you actually stick it down (the 3m adhesive pads are an utter **** to remove). It will entirely depend on your height/type of bike/how you position yourself riding. I tryed mine with blue-tac/selotape numerous times sat on drive before I found the best spot to stick it down.

If you stick it how you think 'looks right' chances are it will record lots of clouds or lots of tarmac. Mine looks very high-angled if you look at it on the helmet sat flat, but once i'm on the bike its angled fine Thumbs Up.
https://i62.tinypic.com/2emj6kg.jpg
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was pretty restricted where I could fit mine due to the helmet having lots of ridges and lines rather than smooth curved areas.

Ended up mounting it as such


https://i58.tinypic.com/jpfs4l.jpg


Gives a good view of the road only obscured very slightly by the helmet in the lower left corner


https://i58.tinypic.com/23hpnqw.jpg



Actually prefer having it there than on top of the helmet as it won't get knocked off / smashed going through a doorway or similar.... also looks cooler than the teletubby look Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where you mount depends on your helmet. I have an agv k3 and mount my stealth 2 on the side. Problem with that is about a 5th of the cameras view is obscured by the helmet.
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

kerr wrote:
You can rotate the lens and the angle of a drift Thumbs Up


Sounds a whole lot easier than the 3 way pivot arm faffery of the GoPro.

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PostPosted: 21:45 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
kerr wrote:
You can rotate the lens and the angle of a drift Thumbs Up

Sounds a whole lot easier than the 3 way pivot arm faffery of the GoPro.
That probably is the one benefit of side mounting actually - you can adjust the angle of the whole camera itself if you make a mess installing the adhesive mount. Won't do any good on a top mount unless you add in an extension arm.
https://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Drift-41.jpg.

I'm still going to stick with top-mounting properly though Folded arms.
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

To position it, use the wifi combined with the drift app to watch the camera live, place it on the helmet until the image shows what you want it to, then mark the corner of the location with a felt pen or so. Then take it off, clean the area with something like methylated spirits or IPA, then stick it on where you had it marked.

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PostPosted: 22:13 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all.
I have a Drift HD
and this Helmet

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PostPosted: 22:22 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nathan0834 wrote:
I have a Drift HD
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Very tempted to buy one of those too at that price. Didn't realise the 1080's had got so cheap. I paid £99 for my refurbished 720p Drift not much over a year ago Shocked... And to be honest its absolutely-potato-crap-quality now Embarassed. Looks like someones spat on the lense constantly.
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 24 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took a few pics of mine.

With just the mount only.

https://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz250/grrthefearless/Brisky%20shots/IMAG1767_zpsxh7llzws.jpg

With camera.

https://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz250/grrthefearless/Brisky%20shots/IMAG1768_zps4twanuae.jpg

From front.

https://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz250/grrthefearless/Brisky%20shots/IMAG1769_zps5qjwizem.jpg

https://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz250/grrthefearless/Brisky%20shots/IMAG1771_zpsd0iugk8r.jpg

stillshot from that viewpoint.

https://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz250/grrthefearless/Brisky%20shots/bikecam%20still3_zps3twljqhi.jpg
Sorry, don't know how to make the pics smaller... Eh?
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still wondering why we are (still) mounting the WHOLE camera on our helmets and not just the optical module by itself with the battery, electronics and recording media as a seperate unit located safely out of the way in a pocket.
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PostPosted: 00:45 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I'm still wondering why we are (still) mounting the WHOLE camera on our helmets and not just the optical module by itself with the battery, electronics and recording media as a seperate unit located safely out of the way in a pocket.


Because technology has moved on? Very Happy

The cameras are getting smaller and smaller all the time and it's much more convenient to have it all in one unit that you can just clip on without having to start messing around with plugging in wires and routing them into a pocket without fouling a zip etc etc.

These cameras are generally marketed / designed for all kinds of sports, not just motorcyclists with convenient pockets for ancillaries, I think it would be very rare that seperate wires and coponents (all seperately needing to be robust and at least splash proof etc) would be considered advantageous.
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PostPosted: 01:20 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just_James wrote:

Because technology has moved on? Very Happy

The cameras are getting smaller and smaller all the time and it's much more convenient to have it all in one unit that you can just clip on without having to start messing around with plugging in wires and routing them into a pocket without fouling a zip etc etc.

These cameras are generally marketed / designed for all kinds of sports, not just motorcyclists with convenient pockets for ancillaries, I think it would be very rare that seperate wires and coponents (all seperately needing to be robust and at least splash proof etc) would be considered advantageous.


In fact, I personally think the action cameras are getting bigger, heavier and less aerodynamic. I was seeing dinky little bullet cams a few years back.

That drift thing isn't much smaller or lighter than the camcorders people were rocking 15-20 years ago and those had to have room for an 8mm casette tape.

A mate of mine had a helmet 15 years ago with a CMOS camera smaller than a 2p velcroed to the chinbar and hooked back into a PDA in his pocket. Many modern helmets have integrated bluetooth systems anyway.

Just did a searck and some manufacturers are picking this up.

Panasonic are making one with a 31g camera unit attached to a seperate display/battery/media unit. Makes much more sense to me for a camera you're going to wear rather than attach to something. Who wants to strap a Lipo battery to their head?
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PostPosted: 04:17 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope not going of topic here, but stinkwheel makes a valid point (for me) with regard to weight added to the helmet.

I prefer flip up helmets and they are always heavier then their full face equivalents (my second choice).

The less heavy flip-ups means a big increase in price I've found, and adding even 135g means a lot to me in comfort terms.

e.g. If I decided to splash on say a Schuberth then the very big increase in cost\re weight would be negated by the weight of the helmet cam, it is one of the reasons I keep putting off fitting one.

Only other option I can think off is bike mounted, but I see much greater potential in the helmet-cam as an evidence record for off-bike recording.
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PostPosted: 06:58 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd struggle to record 1080p at 60fps onto 8mm tape.
The battery is still requiring a reasonably large body, and now you have a decent sized screen to set up and review too.

The general consensus is that havig the camera near eyelevel minimises exagerrated ovements and feels most like 'being there' which may or may not be the desired effect.
It can be hard to avoid a bit of helmet at the side, however with widescreen that's not such an issue.

Mounts are relatively cheap, you could reasonably have a couple of options on your helmet always in place, and more on front/back of the bike.
Drift and most others can also be mounted on tripod screw mounts, giving further options for temporary unusual positions maybe down near footrests etc.
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nathan0834 wrote:
Thank you all.
I have a Drift HD
and this Helmet

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Thanks for that link - drift purchased.. Not only that but I now know how to mount it.. Best thread ever.
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PostPosted: 09:30 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

How it's mounted on the helmet

https://i.imgur.com/sHm61HF.jpg


What the footage looks like
https://i.imgur.com/WbhuU25.png
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I'm still wondering why we are (still) mounting the WHOLE camera on our helmets and not just the optical module by itself with the battery, electronics and recording media as a seperate unit located safely out of the way in a pocket.

Because they aren't just for fixing to helmets/clothing. You can mount the ghost on all manner of other things as well.
Doing it that way gives you far more POV options, after all they are only trying to shift units at the end of the day..
You could even fix it on the underside of a surfboard if you wanted.
I had it fixed to the roof bars of my van when I first got it and was experimenting with settings and stuff.
They are supposed to be tough and durable so maybe the single module design helps with that as well?
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must admit the old Drifts are probably a bit more chunky than I'd want stuck to my lid but the Drift 2 is only 80 x 42.6 x 27.4mm and weighs 97 grams.

Much smaller than that and I think it starts going the way mobile phones did for a while where they can make them smaller but then they start becoming too small to be able to operate easily.
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I'm still wondering why we are (still) mounting the WHOLE camera on our helmets and not just the optical module by itself with the battery, electronics and recording media as a seperate unit located safely out of the way in a pocket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qx5fgy8f28
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