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delsol
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Pop Riveters Reply with quote

TL/DR warning Smile

I have had cheap pop riveters in the past and to be fair, whilst they did not give a lot of pleasure I could get by even using 4mm dia rivets and Popeye arms, they eventually after good service gave up the ghost.

In the past year I purchased another cheap riveter, I actually snapped a handle lever apply closing pressure to a 3mm rivet, in the bin it had to go.

I just bought 2 more riveters (pics below of actual type) I bought 2 because I was getting free postage, the Silverline was only £4.00.
Total cost for 2 was £20.00, absolutely shite except for the smallest of rivets, they struggle with 2.5mm X 6mm, destined for bin as soon as I get a replacement(s).

Anyways, I need a decent hand riveter for confined spaces, I will buy something bigger as well, say size of lazy tongs where space is not a problem.

I don't mind spending a fair bit for a good product, I'm sick to death of the shite I am now using, Oh, and for a larger heavier duty riveter it does not have to be lazy tong type.

BCF collective hepl needed, what can you recommend ?

Say £40.00 for hand riveter, more if needed.
Heavier duty riveter, I am open to suggestions.
Powered riveters, yes, but I would want mains not battery because I will end up with doodah rechargeable batteries that will probably cost a fortune to replace.

Finally, can I get a compact riveter that will do the job comfortably for both small and say up to 6mm dia X 10mm long (max), I know something like that would be costly, but I would regard it as an investment.

Edit: I have a compressor so an air riveter is a possibility, downside is I cannot take the compressor with me if job needs done outside the garage.
So an air riveter to live in the garage could be a second best option.


Ta guys.
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Youtr post just reminded me i need a new one. Could not find your £4 silverline one so had to pay £4.98 Sad lol. Anyway, the one that has just packed up was a cheap as chips shite out B&Q some 20 years ago and thats it just not long died so dont be put off with cheap ones unless you are a heavy user. Odd jobs = get a cheap one. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can make those cheap riveters easier to use if you take smaller 'bites' between squeezes. To do this you leave a small gap between the nozzle and the rivet head instead of pushing it fully home when you release the grips.
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be sure to read this when my £5 pop-riveter fails on me, at which point I'll either buy a premium brand ones, or 8 x the same ones that have yet to fail on me, ever.
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
same ones that have yet to fail on me, ever.

Same here.
Think I've got at least two when I've had to get another as the other one was left in a different part of the country.

Never had a problem. You're not using some sort of ultra-strong rivets are you? Smile
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can break a pop riveter using steel rivets. They aren't very common though.
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delsol
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

For fucks Borg, you are so predictable, Karma as Boring for asking for advice on pop-riveters.

Most of the comments you make have no fkn meaning, they are just there for the yellow blob count, do I get into rating you boring for all the meaningless comments you post on virtually every thread on the forum.

No, because it would be fkn childish.

ADMIN status seems make you think you have the right to talk shite as a perk, and quite frankly you have and are becoming more and more derisory in your treatment of BCF members comments in general.

You are doing this forum no favours with your attitude and pervasive presence.

You really ought to realise that your 'life' here is not quite anything near normal, it's an obsession with you, I wish Korn would just grant you 5 gold blobs and maybe you would then fuck off for a while in search of a new meaningless goal to achieve.
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 25 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calm down dear, think his admin thing is a joke btw
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PostPosted: 00:25 - 26 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

delsol wrote:
For fucks Borg, you are so predictable, Karma as Boring for asking for advice on pop-riveters.

Most of the comments you make have no fkn meaning, they are just there for the yellow blob count, do I get into rating you boring for all the meaningless comments you post on virtually every thread on the forum.

No, because it would be fkn childish.

ADMIN status seems make you think you have the right to talk shite as a perk, and quite frankly you have and are becoming more and more derisory in your treatment of BCF members comments in general.

You are doing this forum no favours with your attitude and pervasive presence.

You really ought to realise that your 'life' here is not quite anything near normal, it's an obsession with you, I wish Korn would just grant you 5 gold blobs and maybe you would then fuck off for a while in search of a new meaningless goal to achieve.


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PostPosted: 00:52 - 26 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must admit I don't see OPs post as something that needs to be 'rated' as boring? Confused

As said, he wast just asking advice on something Eh?

Am sure every post on here made by anyone is boring to someone else but whether it needs rating as such I don't see how it's necessary / justified unless it's a frequent spammer / troll / attention seeker etc that you wish to discourage from making further posts.

IMHO, if a post is 'personally' considered boring, just move on and read another thread / do something else.

I know we're just talking karma and blobs here on the face of it but why discourage people from making genuine posts asking for help or advice?
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PostPosted: 08:30 - 26 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I broke my riveting tool putting in a rivet that came with it..

So I used one of my older ones.

HTH
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 26 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still have a pop-rivet tool that I bought new in 1972 from 'The George Tucker Eyelet Company' who I think invented pop-rivets.

I have used it mostly with 4mm aluminium rivets, but it easily copes with 6mm stainless rivets and steel threaded inserts.

It probably cost me a week's wages (as an apprentice) back then, but they don't make 'em like that any more!
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 26 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got bought an aldi one


ive had it three years and never found anything to rivet Shocked
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 26 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a cheap one from Homebase years ago and haven't had any problems with it (other than the paint is flaking off it of course)
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 26 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had to buy another cheapiie after the previous cheapie only gave 8 years of service. Crying or Very sad

If I wanted a more pro version with a true warranty I might nip down to RS and get one of these

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/riveting-tools/0487141/

Dey also do dese

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/riveting-tools/0487129/
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PostPosted: 08:18 - 28 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having been a coachbuilder in the past.

Lazy Tongs are by far the best. Can get attachments to get rivets done in confined spaces.

Can't say i have had the other ones fail on me. Smaller bites is probably good advice.
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 28 Jul 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stainless pop rivetts can be a sod.

I've got some fairly decent (draper expert) pop rivetters. I'm not exactly weedy but I have to slide a bit of pipe over the handles to get them to pop the bigger stainless ones I use on my canoe.
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PostPosted: 08:08 - 08 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit of delay posting update here, local hospital requested I stay with them for several days (bloody twice), good news for me is that the ailment was not fatal.

So, new purchases, Air riveter Thumbs Up Lazy Tongs Thumbs Up and on it's way from America a Hand Riveter, guy I know let me try out his Teng Tools hand riveter and it has much better levering action than the cheapo's, spits out rivet pins nicely too.

Teng riveter from USA only £20.00, a mate is bringing it back with him in a few weeks time.

Tried this too, just cannot justify the cost, but an excellent piece of kit:
https://www.gesiparivetingtools.com/accudeals.html?gclid=CLqfxrf0mMcCFe7KtAodOx4MRA

New tools pics:
Teng Tools HR01
Lazy Tongs
Air Riveter
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delsol
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PostPosted: 08:17 - 08 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sload wrote:
Calm down dear, think his admin thing is a joke btw


Laughing calmer now, obsessive bombardment poster just to get yellow blobs does get on my threepenny's sometimes.

So ( think his admin thing is a joke) kevin just putting up titles for himself to try and impress ?
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 08 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

delsol wrote:
Sload wrote:
Calm down dear, think his admin thing is a joke btw


Laughing calmer now, obsessive bombardment poster just to get yellow blobs does get on my threepenny's sometimes.

So ( think his admin thing is a joke) kevin just putting up titles for himself to try and impress ?


User titles can only be set by korn. The user can't change it, so rogerborg isn't the one "doing the joke"
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delsol
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 08 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

lihp wrote:

User titles can only be set by korn. The user can't change it, so rogerborg isn't the one "doing the joke"


So anyone know what meaning or relevance the ADMIN 'title' has ?
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 08 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note that his signature does specify it is 'for novelty purposes'.

He got the four millionth post and this was his 'reward'. (He did, ah, "make full use of technology"... I'm glad I was too busy to do the same, get enough hassle as it is Razz ).
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 08 Aug 2015    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop rigfht there I love Borg, he rides and crashes Enfield and is very very helpful to noobs like me.

Borg ya bas!

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